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Updated 25 March 2006

Gain or Loss of Function—Time to Shake up Assumptions on γ-Secretase in Alzheimer Disease?


Peter Davies

Bart De Strooper
We invite you to participate in this “offline” Forum discussion with past ARF advisors Peter Davies of Albert Einstein College of Medicine in the Bronx, New York, and Bart De Strooper at K.U. Leuven, Belgium. The goal of this discussion is to explore the implications of two recent papers, which have been generously made available by their respective publishers.
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Bentahir M, Nyabi O, Verhamme J, Tolia A, Horre K, Wiltfang J, Esselmann H, De Strooper B. Presenilin clinical mutations can affect gamma-secretase activity by different mechanisms. J Neurochem. 2006 Feb;96(3):732-42. Epub 2006 Jan 9. Full text. We thank the International Society for Neurochemistry and the Journal of Neurochemistry for access to this paper.

Samir Kumar-Singh, Jessie Theuns, Bianca Van Broeck, Daniel Pirici, Krist’l Vennekens, Ellen Corsmit, Marc Cruts, Bart Dermaut, Rong Wang, Christine Van Broeckhoven. Mean Age-of_Onset of Familial Alzheimer Disease Caused by Presenilin Mutations Correlates with Both Increased Aβ42 and Decreased Aβ40. Human Mutation, In press. View Uncorrected Text [.pdf].

View Comments By:
Peter Davies — Posted 25 March 2006
Nikolaos K. Robakis — Posted 28 March 2006
Takeshi Iwatsubo — Posted 31 March 2006
Mark A. Smith, Hyoung-gon Lee, George Perry, Akihiko Nunomura — Posted 31 March 2006
Hui Zheng — Posted 6 April 2006
Bart De Strooper — Posted 6 April 2006
Takaomi Saido — Posted 9 April 2006
Jie Shen — Posted 11 April 2006
Carlos A. Saura — Posted 19 April 2006
Todd E. Golde — Posted 19 April 2006
Matthew Hass, Bruce Yankner — Posted 24 April 2006
Philippe Marambaud — Posted 26 April 2006
Frédéric Checler — Posted 26 April 2006
Raphael Kopan — Posted 2 May 2006
Rudy Tanzi — Posted 2 May 2006
Rachael Neve — Posted 17 May 2006
Peter Davies — Posted 19 May 2006
Vincent Marchesi — Posted 24 May 2006
Bart De Strooper — Posted 24 May 2006
Rudy Tanzi — Posted 30 May 2006
Fred Van Leuven — Posted 1 June 2006
Sanjay W. Pimplikar — Posted 6 June 2006
Rudy Tanzi — Posted 13 June 2006
Samir Kumar-Singh — Posted 24 January 2007


Introduction by Gabrielle Strobel

If in your own mind you had Peter Davies pigeonholed as a tau researcher, think again. While Davies’ penchant for skepticism and doubt has established him as an occasional thorn in the side of a dominant amyloid hypothesis, his work on tau is not the only avenue that got him there.

Like many researchers today, Davies actively studies both major arms of Alzheimer disease pathology, and it is the amyloid side that drew his questioning gaze to the topic of the present discussion. Last month, researchers led by Bart de Strooper, at K.U. Leuven, Belgium, and colleagues in Germany, reported their analysis of how five different clinical presenilin 1 mutations and one presenilin 2 mutation affect the function of the gamma-secretase complex. These scientists were pursuing the question of whether the mutations lead to a toxic gain of function (i.e. more Aβ42 production), or perhaps also to a partial loss of function—an idea that may seem murky, unwieldy, and inconveniently counterintuitive but that has nonetheless been picking up some steam with recent studies.

First author Mostafa Bentahir and colleagues reported a mixed picture. All the examined mutations compromised the secretase’s ability to process APP at a recently discovered epsilon cleavage site, while APP cleavage at the gamma site varied from mutation to mutation. Some mutations led to more Aβ42 production but others led to a drop in Aβ40 production, and it was this latter finding, together with the loss of epsilon cleavage, that caught Davies’ eye. “Once in a blue moon, a paper comes out that really changes my thinking in an important way. That just happened,” Davies wrote to ARF.

Soon after, a second study fueled the issue further. First author Samir Kumar-Singh and colleagues, led by ARF advisor Christine Van Broeckhoven at the University of Antwerp, Belgium, developed a new method to measure FAD effects on γ-secretase. Their motivation partly was to develop a robust tool for predicting the clinical severity of a given FAD mutation in patients but, lo and behold, they similarly found that of nine FAD mutations examined, all consistently lowered Aβ40 levels whereas only some drove up Aβ42. Kumar-Singh et al. also found that loss of Ab40 correlated quite well with the age at which disease began.

All these changes add up to an alteration of the Aβ42/Aβ40 ratio, which is widely assumed to be a key factor in AD pathogenesis. Here are some questions to consider: Just how important is it which side tips the ratio? Is this mostly a fine point, because the ratio itself is what has the relevant biological consequences? Or would a selective decrease of Aβ40 indeed have fundamental implications for pathogenesis, for therapeutic strategies? How about a selective loss of epsilon cleavage? More broadly, should the field pursue APP processing products other than Aβ with more vigor? Is catalytic activity per se the main Achilles heel of γ-secretase, or could it be its assembly, or even the way its different substrates dock, and then access that catalytic site? Which of these changes brings on disease?



Comments on Live Discussion
  Comment by:  Peter Davies
Submitted 25 March 2006  |  Permalink Posted 25 March 2006

Bart De Strooper and colleagues have just published a paper on the effects of presenilin (PS) mutations on the processing of APP (and other proteins). I think this paper is extremely important, and corroborated by another manuscript currently in press. This work deserves careful deliberation, and to that end I invite my colleagues in the Alzheimer research community to consider the study’s implications in this public and collegial forum. My thoughts below serve to jumpstart such a deliberation with the questions the work raised in my mind.

Bentahir et al. take advantage of cell lines lacking both presenilins 1 and 2; that serves to eliminate the possible interaction between endogenous and transgenic mutant forms of PS that had muddied the waters in analyzing the effect of the mutations before. The authors replaced the endogenous presenilins with either wild-type or a series of FAD mutant proteins and reported the effect of these replacements on the processing of APP and of three other proteins. In short, their major result is that clinical PS mutations cause a partial loss...  Read more


  Comment by:  Nikolaos K. Robakis
Submitted 28 March 2006  |  Permalink Posted 28 March 2006

Many Mechanisms to Gain Aβ and Its Uncertain Role in AD
Peter’s comments are very well taken. Regarding PS1, several papers published within the last 3 to 4 years suggest that certain FAD mutations cause a loss of function at the ε cleavage site (also catalyzed by the γ-secretase complex) of many proteins including APP itself (Wiley et al., 2005), cadherins, Notch1, and ephrinB. A theoretical objection against the gain-of-function hypothesis for the PS1 mutations is that it is extremely difficult to imagine biochemical mechanisms that will explain how all FAD mutations distributed throughout the PS1 polypeptide may result in a gain of the same enzymatic activity, namely an increase in the γ-secretase cleavage. On the other hand, it is easy to imagine how a loss of function can finally appear as a gain. As an example, loss of cleavage function at the ε site of APP due to FAD mutations, for example, London mutations, may appear as a gain in Aβ production because this loss may increase the available substrate for cleavage...  Read more

  Comment by:  Takeshi Iwatsubo, ARF Advisor
Submitted 31 March 2006  |  Permalink Posted 31 March 2006

A number of mutations in presenilin (PS) 1, 2, or APP genes linked to familial AD (FAD) have been shown to increase the ratio of Aβ42/Aβ40 secreted from cells, or in the brains of transgenic mice overexpressing these mutant genes. As pointed out by Bentahir et al. and Kumar-Singh et al., the absolute levels of secreted Aβ40 are often significantly decreased, while those of Aβ42 are not robustly changed, resulting in an increase in the Aβ42/Aβ40 ratio.

γ-secretase cleaves its substrates at multiple sites within the transmembrane domain; the γ-cleavages of APP take place at positions 40 or 42, and the γ or ε-cleavage to produce AICD at position 49. The catalytic site of γ-secretase comprising the two transmembrane aspartate residues appears to attack the scissile bonds of substrates (which are predicted to form α-helices) at a combination of multiple sites. This determines the levels of products and their relative ratios at a constant level, that is, ε-cleavage to produce AICD at position 49 and γ-cleavage to yield Aβ40 being predominant. FAD mutations cause substitutions of...  Read more


  Comment by:  Hyoung-gon Lee, Akihiko Nunomura, George Perry, ARF Advisor (Disclosure), Mark A. Smith (Disclosure)
Submitted 31 March 2006  |  Permalink Posted 31 March 2006

Less Amyloid-β Equals More Disease
The relationship between amyloid-β and Alzheimer disease may finally have hit the “irreconcilable differences” stage. Things have been rocky ever since revelations of a spatial, temporal, and pathologic separation between the parties including: 1) the weak relation between amyloid-β and disease state (Delaere et al., 1987; Giannakopoulos et al., 2003); 2) the very high amyloid-β loads often seen in cognitively intact old people (Crystal et al., 1988); and 3) that transgenic animal models with supraphysiological amyloid-β levels show little/no neuronal loss (Irizzary et al., 1997). Now, perhaps the most damning evidence to date: Mutations known to cause Alzheimer disease actually reduce the overall levels of amyloid-β (Bentahir et al., 2006). While these findings are at odds with the amyloid hypothesis (Hardy and Higgins, 1992; Hardy and Selkoe, 2002), they are consistent with an alternate amyloid hypothesis (Lee et al., 2006) whereby amyloid-β serves as a protective molecule produced in response to oxidative or other insults (Yan et...  Read more

  Comment by:  Hui Zheng
Submitted 5 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 6 April 2006

The two papers cited above employ the use of cell cultures and human samples to study the pathogenic mechanisms of PS FAD mutations. Complementing these studies and using transgenic mouse models, we report that overall reduced Aβ40 and PS-dependent processing is the underlying mechanism for increased Aβ42/Aβ40 ratio and accelerated amyloid pathology in two strains of PS1-related transgenic mice (Wang et al., 2006; Deng et al., 2006). Our studies support a partial loss-of-function activity by the PS FAD mutations.

References:
Wang R, Wang B, He W, Zheng H. Wild-type presenilin 1 protects against Alzheimer's disease mutation-induced amyloid pathology. J Biol Chem. 2006 Mar 29; [Epub ahead of print] Abstract

Yu Deng, Leonid Tarassishin, Verena Kallhoff, Erica Peethumnongsin, Ling Wu, Yue-Ming Li and Hui Zheng J. Deletion of Presenilin 1 Hydrophilic Loop Sequence Leads to Impaired gamma-secretase Activity and Exacerbated Amyloid Pathology. J. Neurosci., 26 (14): 3845-3854, 2006.

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  Comment by:  Bart De Strooper
Submitted 6 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 6 April 2006

I appreciate very much the thoughtful comments on our work by Dr. Davies and the other scientists concerning its implications for the current thinking on AD. The primary question in our manuscript (Bentahir et al., 2006) is, however, biochemical in nature, that is, how do mutations in presenilin affect γ-secretase proteolytic activity. Reconstituted knockout fibroblasts are a fine tool to perform this type of experiment because one avoids interference by the wild-type molecules. The conclusion of the work is clear: Clinical mutations in PS cause a loss of γ-secretase (enzymatic) function. What our findings imply for the understanding of the pathogenesis of Alzheimer disease is, however, less clear to me. I would therefore like to provide some thoughts here regarding three issues raised in the ongoing discussions.

1. Concerning the effect of the PS1 FAD mutations on total Aβ in brain
The effect of a partial loss-of-function allele in the context of three other healthy alleles (one PS1 and two PS2) is quite difficult to predict, especially in the in vivo situation...  Read more


  Comment by:  Takaomi Saido, ARF Advisor
Submitted 8 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 9 April 2006

1. PS mutations may need to be divided into three categories: one with typical pathological and neurological phenotypes of AD, one with additional symptoms and one without full AD pathology (i.e. tauopathy w/o Abeta amyloidosis).

2. Overexpression of mutant PS cDNA in cultured cells may not necessarily reproduce what would be happening in neurons in vivo. In other words, some of the mutations may not decrease production of Abeta40. Although it is too much work, it seems the only relevant way is to generate KI mice carrying these mutations.

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  Comment by:  Jie Shen
Submitted 11 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 11 April 2006

Based on our mouse genetic studies, which showed that conditional inactivation of presenilins in the mouse brain phenocopies the cardinal features of Alzheimer disease, namely dementia and neurodegeneration, I proposed in 2003 that FAD-linked PS mutations may cause the disease via a partial loss-of-function mechanism (see Gabrielle Strobel's coverage of the 2003 SFN Symposium and Saura et al., 2004).

The two papers that are being discussed here add to a large number of reports published since 1996 indicating that FAD-linked mutations in presenilins cause partial loss of PS function or γ-secretase activity. Some of these published reports are listed below. Bart De Strooper's paper confirms and extends prior studies from Raphael Kopan's and Alison Goate's laboratories showing reduced activities of mutant presenilins in PS-null MEFs.

References:
Saura CA, Choi SY, Beglopoulos V, Malkani S, Zhang D, Shankaranarayana Rao BS, Chattarji S, Kelleher RJ 3rd, Kandel ER, Duff K, Kirkwood A, Shen J. Loss of presenilin function causes impairments of memory and synaptic plasticity followed by age-dependent neurodegeneration. Neuron. 2004 Apr 8;42(1):23-36. Abstract

Levitan D, Doyle TG, Brousseau D, Lee MK, Thinakaran G, Slunt HH, Sisodia SS, Greenwald I. Assessment of normal and mutant human presenilin function in Caenorhabditis elegans. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 1996 Dec 10;93(25):14940-4. Abstract

Song W, Nadeau P, Yuan M, Yang X, Shen J, Yankner BA. Proteolytic release and nuclear translocation of Notch-1 are induced by presenilin-1 and impaired by pathogenic presenilin-1 mutations. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 1999 Jun 8;96(12):6959-63. Abstract

Chen F, Gu Y, Hasegawa H, Ruan X, Arawaka S, Fraser P, Westaway D, Mount H, St George-Hyslop P. Presenilin 1 mutations activate gamma 42-secretase but reciprocally inhibit epsilon-secretase cleavage of amyloid precursor protein (APP) and S3-cleavage of notch. J Biol Chem. 2002 Sep 27;277(39):36521-6. Epub 2002 Jul 15. Abstract

Qi Y, Morishima-Kawashima M, Sato T, Mitsumori R, Ihara Y. Distinct mechanisms by mutant presenilin 1 and 2 leading to increased intracellular levels of amyloid beta-protein 42 in Chinese hamster ovary cells. Biochemistry. 2003 Feb 4;42(4):1042-52. Abstract

Schroeter EH, Ilagan MX, Brunkan AL, Hecimovic S, Li YM, Xu M, Lewis HD, Saxena MT, De Strooper B, Coonrod A, Tomita T, Iwatsubo T, Moore CL, Goate A, Wolfe MS, Shearman M, Kopan R. A presenilin dimer at the core of the gamma-secretase enzyme: insights from parallel analysis of Notch 1 and APP proteolysis. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2003 Oct 28;100(22):13075-80. Epub 2003 Oct 17. Abstract

Moehlmann T, Winkler E, Xia X, Edbauer D, Murrell J, Capell A, Kaether C, Zheng H, Ghetti B, Haass C, Steiner H. Presenilin-1 mutations of leucine 166 equally affect the generation of the Notch and APP intracellular domains independent of their effect on Abeta 42 production. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2002 Jun 11;99(12):8025-30. Epub 2002 Jun 4. Abstract

Walker ES, Martinez M, Brunkan AL, Goate A. Presenilin 2 familial Alzheimer's disease mutations result in partial loss of function and dramatic changes in Abeta 42/40 ratios. J Neurochem. 2005 Jan;92(2):294-301. Abstract

Siman R, Reaume AG, Savage MJ, Trusko S, Lin YG, Scott RW, Flood DG. Presenilin-1 P264L knock-in mutation: differential effects on abeta production, amyloid deposition, and neuronal vulnerability. J Neurosci. 2000 Dec 1;20(23):8717-26. Abstract

Wiley JC, Hudson M, Kanning KC, Schecterson LC, Bothwell M. Familial Alzheimer's disease mutations inhibit gamma-secretase-mediated liberation of beta-amyloid precursor protein carboxy-terminal fragment. J Neurochem. 2005 Sep;94(5):1189-201. Epub 2005 Jun 30. Abstract

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  Comment by:  Carlos A. Saura
Submitted 18 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 19 April 2006

The mechanisms by which FAD-linked PS mutations cause memory loss and neurodegeneration are by far unclear. The paper by Bart De Strooper and collaborators supports a large number of publications describing a reduced activity of PS mutations in the cleavage of APP, Notch, and other γ-secretase substrates, although the same mutations produce an increase of Aβ42/40 ratio. From these studies, it seems clear to me that PS1 and PS2 mutations have different effects on Aβ40 and Aβ42 generation, although these mutations impair the γ-cleavage of APP (or its equivalent S3 cleavage of Notch). This suggests that these mutations act on these cleavage events partially through loss-of-function mechanism(s).

However, the most striking evidence for a PS loss-of-function-mediated pathogenic mechanism came from our investigations using brain-specific PS conditional knockout mice (Saura et al., 2004; see Jie Shen´s comment). In that study, we showed that loss of PS function over time leads to synaptic dysfunction, neurodegeneration, and memory loss. In support of this partial loss-of-function...  Read more


  Comment by:  Todd E. Golde
Submitted 18 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 19 April 2006

With respect to Dr. Davies's comments, I think first and foremost we have to consider the fact that presenilin mutations are not the sole genetic cause of AD. The recent finding that APP gene duplications (in the absence of overt trisomy 21) cause AD definitively demonstrates that APP, and hence Aβ overproduction, drives this disease. The current manuscript shows very nicely that different PS mutants behave differently, but all that cause AD result in relatively more Aβ production. Indeed, the really nice feature of this manuscript is that it tells us not all FAD-linked PS mutations are equal in terms of functional effects. Given that the mutations are distributed throughout the molecule, one would not expect them to be.

For some time I have avoided the terms "gain or loss of function" with respect to these mutations, and simply refer to them as mutations that shift function. The manuscript by Bentahir et al. shows this “shift of function” very nicely. It will be an exciting time when we understand at a precise molecular level how the conformation of the PS complex is...  Read more


  Comment by:  Matthew Hass, Bruce Yankner, ARF Advisor
Submitted 24 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 24 April 2006

Loss of What?
These three papers provide convincing evidence that familial PS mutations can reduce total Aβ production both in vitro and in vivo despite increasing the Aβ42:40 ratio, as a result of decreasing absolute levels of Aβ40. This finding extends our earlier observation that PS1 mutations cause loss of function of γ-secretase-mediated Notch cleavage and nuclear signaling (Song et al., 1999), and raises the intriguing possibility that loss of PS function may contribute to the pathogenesis of AD. But how such a loss of function could contribute to AD, other than just by increasing the Aβ42:40 ratio, remains to be determined. Nonetheless, these studies raise a number of interesting questions and possibilities for future investigation.

1. Could Aβ40 actually be a protective molecule? This question could be addressed by crossing the recent Bri-Aβ40 mouse, which does not have an amyloidogenic phenotype, with the Bri-Aβ42 mice, which develop Aβ deposits, in order to determine whether Aβ40 can reduce Aβ42 deposition...  Read more


  Comment by:  Philippe Marambaud
Submitted 25 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 26 April 2006

A consensus about the exact molecular mechanism by which PS1 pathogenic mutations affect APP processing in the diseased human brain, or even in cell culture or animal models, seems difficult to reach. This lack of consensus is nicely highlighted in the present forum discussion following Peter Davies's and Gabrielle Strobel’s comments.

The debate is about defining the effect of FAD-linked PS1 mutations on the catalytic functions of the protein. Several results support the notion that some of these mutations lead to a severe loss of catalytic function, as clearly shown for the γ-secretase cleavage of N-cadherin (Marambaud et al., 2003), Notch-1 (Song et al., 1999; Nakajima et al., 2000; Moehlmann et al., 2002), and ephrinB2 (Georgakopoulos et al., 2006). A similar apparent loss-of-function mechanism was also reported for APP processing at the ε-cleavage site (Chen et al., 2002; Wiley et al., 2005), and was recently confirmed by De Strooper’s, Kumar-Singh’s, and Van Broeckhoven’s groups (Bentahir et al., 2006; Kumar-Singh et al., 2006). Moreover, Hui Zheng and colleagues, in an...  Read more


  Comment by:  Frédéric Checler
Submitted 26 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 26 April 2006

The mechanisms by which mutations on presenilins may trigger or participate to AD pathology is a major issue in the field. The paper by Bart de Strooper's group confirmed that we should better pay attention to the Aβ42-over- Aβ40 ratio and suggest that absolute amounts of the two species should be also thoroughly examined. Obviously this paper not only shows that pathogenic mutations could alter overall load of Aβ but raises many questions about the putative "physiological" role of Aβ . To some extent the paper could be seen as support for the view stating that Aβ (likely the 40 amino-acid long) could have protective function.

It should be noted that we previously reported on the first mutation on APP that was associated with an agressive familial form of AD with about 50 percent reduction in Aβ (Ancolio et al.). Interestingly, all the reduction could be accounted for a by loss of Aβ40 while Aβ42 was not affected. Threfore, again, the Aβ42 versus 40 ratio was drastically increased. However, another interesting aspect was the drastic changes in N-terminally truncated forms...  Read more


  Comment by:  Raphael Kopan
Submitted 2 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 2 May 2006

I second Rudy's point: the "gain" seen in the human population is best attributed to change in Aß 40/42 ratio, as many of us have reported in the past. Even biochemical loss-of-function mutations in PS proteins result in altered 40/42 ratio. I will not cite my own or papers from other groups since they have all been mentioned already in this string. Another point against a simple loss of function model is the presence of two PS2 alleles and one PS1 allele with wild-type function in FAD families.

Importantly, we do now know what would be the phenotype in humans with reduced Notch activity, expected from loss of function of g-secretase: aortic valve disease. Like AD, AVD is a late-onset condition. Unless a correlation is detected between AD and aortic valve disease, perhaps we should focus our efforts on allosteric modulation of the ratio as a therapeutic angle.

References:
Garg, V., Muth, A. N., Ransom, J. F., Schluterman, M. K., Barnes, R., King, I. N., Grossfeld, P. D. and Srivastava, D. (2005). Mutations in NOTCH1 cause aortic valve disease. Nature 21, 180-184. Abstract

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  Comment by:  Rudy Tanzi (Disclosure)
Submitted 1 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 2 May 2006

From a genetic standpoint, the fact that presenilin and APP mutations are autosomal dominant implies that, ultimately, the etiological effects involve "gain" of function even if from the standpoint of pathogenesis, we observe a chain of "cause and effect" events cycling between "loss"and "gain" of function.

Specifically, 160 different mutations spanning the presenilins most likely compromise the normal function of presenilins, which can be interpreted as "loss" of function in the γ-secretase complex. However, in the case of APP cleavage, the result is not just impaired production of Aβ40, but also enhanced production of Aβ42. The increase in Aβ42 ("gain" of function) then promotes Aβ oligomerization ("gain" of function). The "gain" of Aβ oligomers might then lead to impaired synaptic function and LTP ("loss" of function). Pushing this further, one could argue that if impaired synaptic activity owing to Aβ oligomers occurs in inhibitory synapses, one might also observe a "loss" of inhibitory synaptic function -- the pathogenic chain of cause and effect events can go on and...  Read more


  Comment by:  Rachael Neve
Submitted 17 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 17 May 2006

Three papers published within the last 2 weeks highlight the potential importance of presenilin and amyloid precursor protein (APP) signaling in the etiology of Alzheimer disease (AD):

Engel et al., Full reversal of Alzheimer’s disease-like phenotype in a mouse model with conditional overexpression of glycogen synthase kinase-3. J Neurosci. 2006 May 10;26(19):5083-90. Abstract

Doglio et al., Gamma-cleavage-independent functions of , nicastrin, and aph-1 regulate cell-junction organization and prevent tau toxicity in vivo. Neuron. 2006 May 4;50(3):359-75. Abstract

Galvan et al., Reversal of Alzheimer’s-like pathology and behavior in human APP transgenic mice by mutation of Asp664. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2006 May 2;103(18):7130-5. Epub 2006 Apr 25. Abstract

Presenilin is most commonly known as a component of the γ-secretase complex. It is in this capacity that familial Alzheimer disease (FAD) mutations in presenilin are thought...  Read more


  Comment by:  Peter Davies
Submitted 19 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 19 May 2006

It is clear from the responses to our original posting that many people recognize that the mechanism by which presenilin mutations cause Alzheimer disease may be more complicated than a simple increase in Aβ production. If this is all we have achieved, I will be happy. The situation in the brain of a patient with a presenilin 1 mutation is complicated by the presence of a single mutant allele, with a normal allele of PS1 and two normal alleles of PS2. In a paper published just after our posting, Deng et al. reported on the kind of model that some of commentators suggested should be made: a knock-in mutation of PS1. These authors report results entirely consistent with those of De Strooper's group and Kumar-Singh et al. A decrease in Aβ40 was found, with little or no effect on Aβ42, resulting in an overall reduction in Aβ levels with an altered 40/42 ratio. Deng et al. expected that the reduced APP processing would be reflected in a reduced amyloid deposition when the PS1 knock-in mutants were crossed with the Tg2576 amyloid depositing mice. The opposite result was found: Despite...  Read more

  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 24 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 24 May 2006

Peter Davies was too modest to proclaim, as he did in his closing comment, that he would be happy if many people recognized that the mechanisms by which presenilin mutations cause Alzheimer disease may be more complicated than the simple increase in Aβ production. Indeed, this interesting series of exchanges has accomplished much more than that.

First, the almost mythical hold that the Aβ42/40 ratio has had on the thinking of even well-informed investigators has now been exposed for what it is, a complicated consequence of many poorly understood proteolytic processes that may be more artifactual than revealing. The work of De Strooper and others shows that the contributions that presenilin mutations make to the levels of both Aβ40 and Aβ42 are too unpredictable to explain in a coherent way how any of the mutations contribute to the disease process.

Moreover, they also call into question, indirectly, the oft repeated claim that the Aβ42 forms are the most toxic of the two. It is true that many in-vitro experiments suggest that the Aβ42 peptides may be more amyloidogenic,...  Read more


  Comment by:  Bart De Strooper, ARF Advisor
Submitted 24 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 24 May 2006

It was a great idea to have this discussion online. Different views have confronted each other in a friendly way, and I think the conclusion of the debate is indeed that no simple answer is available at this moment. We clearly need further understanding of the biophysics of the amyloid peptide, of APP function, and of structure and biology of the presenilin/γ-secretase complex.

What strikes me most is that it becomes more and more clear that we know too little about the normal function of all of these molecules, and I would stress that we need to look more to their activity in physiologically relevant conditions. I agree with Peter that knock-in models are crucial in that regard.

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  Comment by:  Rudy Tanzi (Disclosure)
Submitted 30 May 2006  |  Permalink Posted 30 May 2006

Human genetics clearly informs us that more than 150 FAD mutations in APP and the presenilins serve to increase the Abeta42:Abeta40 ratio. Genetics also tells us that it is not absolute Abeta levels, but the stoichiometric mixture of Abeta42 and Abeta 40 generated that matters most with regard to etiology and pathogenesis of AD. When Abeta42 levels become too high, relative to Abeta40, pre-plaque, neurotoxic Abeta oligomers are more likely.

The 42:40 ratio can be increased by elevated generation of Abeta42, or in cases of loss-of-function of gamma secretase, e.g. owing to presenilin mutations, due to decreased production of Abeta40. 150 fully penetrant FAD mutations argue that increased 42:40 ratio is the only consistent gain of function event in the autosomal dominant form of this disease, and it is sufficient to lead to onset of AD, usually under 60 years old. Thus, more investigation and drug discovery need to focus on the Abeta 42:40 ratio, itself. Human genetics dictates that if we simply reverse the 42:40 ratio (e.g. by decreasing 42 or perhaps, even, increasing 40),...  Read more


  Comment by:  Fred Van Leuven (Disclosure)
Submitted 1 June 2006  |  Permalink Posted 1 June 2006

One could fill many more pages with discussions on this topic, pro and con the different theses. It strikes me that arguments / convictions / hypotheses / beliefs that I read here over the last weeks all appeared too familiar. AD-researchers seem to forget even faster than their subjects!

Despite the many mutations found, mutant PS1 is NOT a typical cause of AD. Both Ab40 and 42, but also beta-stubs and other functions (or roles) of APP and PS1 need to be taken up in the overall equation. That is the "basic" science that underpins knowledge of AD pathology. AD is the sign-post offered by nature to draw our attention to important molecules and their functions – but AD itself is not a fundamental scientific project.

Back to the Abeta discussion: In the absence of proof to the contrary, I maintain that Abeta42, besides 40, but also the entire series from 37 to 43, are byproducts of APP processing for whose disposal an ageing brain has lost – or not yet found – a solution.

Since late-onset and sporadic AD can also be due to overexpression of APP by gene duplication or...  Read more


  Comment by:  Sanjay W. Pimplikar
Submitted 6 June 2006  |  Permalink Posted 6 June 2006

From this debate, it is becoming apparent that the 42:40 ratio hypothesis (increased Ab42/40 ratio as being pathogenic) is gaining favor. If so, there must be more to it than meets the eye. Bentahir et al. show that the PS2 N141I mutation had the highest 42:40 ratio (Fig. 4) and yet the mean age at onset was the slowest (Table 1).

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  Comment by:  Rudy Tanzi (Disclosure)
Submitted 11 June 2006  |  Permalink Posted 13 June 2006

In response to Dr. Pimplikar: With regard to effects of the presenilin 2 (PS2)-N141I FAD mutation (Levy-Lahad/Wasco et al., 1995) as measured in transfected cells overexpressing the mutant gene (e.g., in Kim et al., 1997), it's important to consider that, in vivo, presenilin 2 expression is much lower than that of presenilin 1 in brain. Thus, under physiological conditions, the effects of the N141I mutation on Aβ42:Aβ40 ratio may not be as robust as in transfected cells expressing non-physiological levels of mutant PS2. If the ratio were indeed on the high end of the spectrum for FAD mutations in vivo (in patients' brains), while onset is relatively late, the ratio hypothesis would have to be reassessed. I don't know if anyone has ever looked at the actual Aβ42:Aβ40 ratio in the brain of a PS2-N141I mutation carrier.

References:
Levy-Lahad E*, Wasco W*, Poorkaj P, Romano DM, Oshima Jm Pettingell WH, Yu C, Jondro PD, Schmidt SD, Wang K, Crowley AC, Fu Y-H, Guenette SY, Galas D, Nemens E, Wijsman EM, Bird TD, Schellenberg GD, Tanzi RE. Candidate gene for the chromosome 1 familial Alzheimer's disease locus. Science, 1995; 269: 973-977. *Shared first author. Abstract

Kim T-W, Pettingell WH, Jung YK, Kovacs DM, Tanzi RE. Alternative cleavage of Alzheimer-associated presenilins during apoptosis by a caspase-3 family protease. Science, 1997; 277:, 373-376. Abstract

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  Comment by:  Samir Kumar-Singh
Submitted 11 April 2006  |  Permalink Posted 24 January 2007

Drs. Davis, De Strooper, and Gabrielle Strobel have done a superb job in taking the initiative to bring this important discussion on our forum. The contributors raised several important points:

1. Dr. Saido noted that not all PS mutations cause FAD. Indeed, the first type of PS mutations are FAD-linked (and although didactic, I agree we should stick to this terminology). FAD-linked PS mutations are now bunched together—those that show additional phenotypes, that is, spastic paraparesis and those that do not—but at some point we may also have to make a distinction between them. The second type of PS mutations do not deposit Aβ in brain, have a clinical picture of FTD, and at least one mutation is linked to Pick’s disease (Dermaut et al., 2004), but how this happens remains elusive. The third type are the “innocent” polymorphisms, though some of them keep reappearing in the clinics in different genetic backgrounds (i.e., E318G; Van Broeckhoven et al., unpublished data), and it could be that some of them require a second hit to have an effect.

2. While the readout for...  Read more

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