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Updated 1 November 2006

Messing with the Membrane—An Alternative Interpretation of the Amyloid-β Hypothesis


We invite you to participate in this "offline" Forum discussion led by Vincent Marchesi of Yale University. Coming from a different research field, Marchesi has in recent years followed the AD literature as closely as have few other outside observers. Earlier this summer, Marchesi published a perspective in PNAS (See Full Text [.pdf]), in which he called on investigators to consider the amyloid hypothesis in a new light.
The amyloid hypothesis commands majority support for its central claim that accumulation of the Aβ peptide plays an important role in AD. Yet Marchesi's ideas come at a time when fundamental questions about this hypothesis remain stubbornly unresolved, slowing down progress toward a deeper understanding and therapeutic approaches. Take advantage of this leisurely format to express your thoughts about Marchesi's article. Do you have supporting evidence? Contradictory evidence? What did Marchesi overlook? How could his hypothesis be tested? We invite you to send questions, comments, critiques, or kudos to Managing Editor Gabrielle Strobel. Gabrielle will post your commentaries and forward them to Marchesi or other participants for their responses.

See Full Text (.pdf). Marchesi VT. An alternative interpretation of the amyloid Abeta hypothesis with regard to the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2005 Jun 28;102(26):9093-8. Copyright © 2005 National Academy of Sciences, U.S.A.

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Eddie Koo — Posted 20 September 2005
Tommaso Russo — Posted 22 September 2005
Dennis Selkoe — Posted 28 September 2005
Thomas Bayer — Posted 28 September 2005
Vincent Marchesi — Posted 6 October 2005
Gunnar K. Gouras — Posted 7 October 2005
Fred Van Leuven, Ilse Dewachter — Posted 7 October 2005
David Holtzman — Posted 10 October 2005
Iwo Bohr — Posted 11 October 2005
Steve Barger — Posted 12 October 2005
Vincent Marchesi — Posted 14 October 2005
Robert Vassar — Posted 19 October 2005
George M. Martin — Posted 25 October 2005
Roberto Malinow — Posted 26 October 2005
Karen Hsiao Ashe — Posted 1 November 2005
Vincent Marchesi — Posted 5 November 2005
Lawrence Rajendran, Kai Simons — Posted 8 November 2005
Vincent Marchesi — Posted 23 November 2005
Gerd Multhaup, Lisa-Marie Munter — Posted 2 December 2005
Brigita Urbanc — Posted 1 November 2006


Marchesi, VT. An alternative interpretation of the amyloid Abeta hypothesis with regard to the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's disease. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2005 Jun 28 ; 102(26):9093-8. Abstract

Abstract: Alzheimer disease is a complex neurodegenerative process that is believed to be due to the accumulation of short, hydrophobic peptides derived from amyloid precursor proteins by proteolytic cleavage. It is widely believed that these Aβ peptides are secreted into the extracellular spaces of the CNS, where they assemble into toxic oligomers that kill neurons and eventually form deposits of senile plaques. This essay explores the possibility that a fraction of these Aβ peptides never leave the membrane lipid bilayer after they are generated, but instead exert their toxic effects by competing with and compromising the functions of intramembraneous segments of membrane-bound proteins that serve many critical functions. Based on the presence of shared amino acid sequences containing GxxxG motifs, I speculate that accumulations of intramembraneous Aβ peptides might affect the functions of amyloid precursor protein itself and the assembly of the PS1, Aph1, Pen2, nicastrin complex.

For further background, read this news summary of the PNAS article:

Marchesi sets up his argument by first laying out a brief synopsis of the main points of consensus in the field. For example, the plaques scattered throughout various brain areas of AD patients comprise many components, most prominently the Aβ40 and 42 peptides generated by cleavage of the APP transmembrane protein. The concerted action of the secretases BACE and γ-secretase releases Aβ peptides, and it is their overproduction or underremoval that is thought to lead to accumulation, extracellular aggregation, neuronal dysfunction, and eventually neuronal death. While Aβ's involvement in the disease is beyond serious dispute, how and where it acts remains unclear, Marchesi writes. Recent research has cast doubt on the conventional notion that the deposits are to blame for the early disease processes, and attention has shifted toward small forms of Aβ, often called soluble oligomers. How they act remains mysterious, and it is this question Marchesi's new ideas address.

Next, Marchesi notes that the fewer than 5 percent of early-onset AD cases who have mutant forms of APP or presenilin—widely thought to encode part of the γ-secretase—probably suffer from an accelerated form of the same underlying pathogenic process that operates in the more prevalent sporadic, late-onset forms. Transgenic animals expressing a variety of mutant forms alone or in combination now exist. They all develop massive Aβ deposits that resemble human pathology, but do not show the other pathologic hallmark of AD, that is, neurofibrillary tangles made of the protein tau. The animals' neurologic and neurodegenerative defects are subtle and vary from strain to strain. A triple transgenic mouse strain expressing mutant versions of APP, presenilin, and tau does develop amyloid deposits and neurofibrillary tangles. In this way, it models the human disease more fully, though it's worth noting that no human with such a heavy genetic burden has as yet been described (Oddo et al., 2003).

The triple transgenic mouse strain confirmed an earlier observation by others that the initial manifestations of Aβ accumulation begin inside neurons, not in extracellular spaces. The earliest detectable material resides in membrane compartments, possibly lysosomes or endosomes. Marchesi further cites a separate claim that APP molecules exist as homodimers inside neuronal plasma membranes in the brain (Scheuermann et al., 2001). The APP dimers are sequestered away in specific "raft" domains that are enriched for cholesterol and sphingolipids, and are thought to affect the regulation of protein-protein interactions. Moreover, these neuronal membrane patches also appear to contain Aβ dimmers (Kawarabayashi et al., 2004), and it is this observation from which Marchesi develops his hypothesis. While its discoverers interpret the intramembraneous Aβ dimers as being on their way to secretion and extracellular accumulation, Marchesi proposes that they could just as well stay inside the neuronal membrane for long periods of time.

To support this notion, Marchesi compares the intramembraneous APP sequence to that of another dimerizing transmembrane protein that is better studied. He suggests that both proteins derive their intramembraneous stability in a similar way, whereby a shared GxxxG motif recruits van de Waals forces and hydrogen bonds such that the transmembrane helices can pack closely and remain dimerized.

There already is a hypothesis dealing with Aβ inside neuronal membranes. It holds that secreted Aβ reinserts itself into the membrane in a channel-like structure (see ARF Live Discussion). In his perspective, Marchesi points to structural and biochemical questions that it still needs to address. He further argues that all arguments supporting the claim that Aβ peptides enter membranes from the outside equally well support the notion that they need not exit the membrane in the first place. They do eventually accumulate outside cells as the disease progresses, but perhaps they are not promptly secreted merely as a consequence of APP cleavage. In fact, the simplest interpretation of Kawarabayashi et al. is that secretase cleavage of APP dimers generates Aβ dimers, of which a significant fraction remains in the membrane, Marchesi contends.

Next, Marchesi asks how Aβ peptides accumulating inside membranes could affect the function of neurons. While APP dimers are anchored to particular sites within the membrane, Aβ peptides are not, and presumably would drift through the plane of the membrane. "It is easy to imagine how such peptides could influence the behavior of intramembraneous segments of receptors of channels, or even intramembraneous segments of enzymes like the presenilins and other secretases," Marchesi writes. He speculates that Aβ peptides inside the membrane could compete with normal APP dimer formation, displacing full-length APP monomers and creating chimeric dimers via their common GxxxG domains. These could be preferentially cleaved to generate more intramembraneous Aβ.

Alternatively, Aβ peptides might destabilize the γ-secretase complex, Marchesi speculates. The GxxxG motif is important in the transmembrane segment of Aph1, a protein that stabilizes the γ-secretase complex by linking its components together. Intramembraneous Aβ peptides could associate with Aph1 or compete for its binding partners, forming heterodimers of various sorts. This is not unheard of in membrane biochemistry. This second speculation could shed new light on a related debate within the field, Marchesi notes. The debate swirls around the question of whether presenilin mutations in familial AD cause well-documented increases in Aβ levels by way of a gain of function, or maybe also through a partial loss of regulatory functions of the γ-secretase complex.

There are broader implications of this scenario, Marchesi notes. It has become clear in recent years that many enzyme reactions occur within membranes, some through a process called regulated intramembraneous cleavage (RIP). Signal transduction mechanisms underlie control by RIP, for example, Notch cleavage. And the γ-secretase complex affects neuronal dysfunction in ways other than generating excessive amounts of Aβ. If tested and confirmed, this perspective of Aβ pathogenesis would call for a new therapeutic approach that aims to inhibit interactions between hydrophobic peptides within a bilayer. While that prospect seems daunting, other fields have already begun exploring it with some success, Marchesi writes. For example, two labs have described peptide segments that correspond to the intramembraneous domain of the transmembrane proteins PDGF or the Erb B receptor, respectively, and modulate their dimerization (Freeman-Cook et al., 2004; Bennasroune et al., 2004). Another possibility worth exploring lies in modulating the lipid membrane itself, Marchesi concludes.—Gabrielle Strobel.



Comments on Live Discussion
  Comment by:  Eddie Koo, ARF Advisor
Submitted 20 September 2005  |  Permalink Posted 20 September 2005

As is often the case, an outsider can give fresh perspectives in ways that someone from the inside has difficulty seeing. In this article, Dr. Vincent Marchesi, a former member of the Alzheimer Research Forum Advisory Board, presented a very thoughtful perspective and hypothesis concerning Aβ-mediated toxicity in brain. The premise with which Dr. Marchesi approached this article is that while the evidence linking Aβ peptide to "the pathogenesis of AD is substantial," how these peptides may be toxic in brain is far from resolved. While current investigators favor the model that neurons process APP and release the cleaved Aβ peptides into the extracellular space where they can form cytotoxic oligomers and aggregate into amyloid deposits, this scenario is indeed far from proven. For example, the Golde laboratory recently showed quite definitively that Aβ42 is necessary for parenchymal amyloid deposits when they creatively fused the Aβ domain to the Bri gene and expressed this construct in mice (1). However, these animals, in spite of substantial amyloid load in brain, have a normal...  Read more

  Comment by:  Tommaso Russo, ARF Advisor
Submitted 22 September 2005  |  Permalink Posted 22 September 2005

It is quite surprising that, despite a huge number of experiments done and papers published, the molecular events responsible for the Alzheimer's phenotype remain obscure. This article is a stimulating exercise that gives support to an alternative explanation for the possible toxic effects of Aβ peptides. In a nutshell, Dr. Marchesi proposes that Aβ peptides exert their toxicity within the cell membranes, where they remain entrapped as dimers after the cleavage of APP. Therefore, extracellular oligomers or larger aggregates could have no toxic effects: Plaques could be even a "safe" storage of toxic peptides, which prevent their reassociation with the membranes.

I'll add three further points to the interesting speculation of Marchesi. First, we should consider that Aβ42 has two extra residues (Ile and Ala) at its C-terminus. These could render more stable, compared to Aβ40, the association of the peptide itself with the hydrophobic environment of the membrane bilayer. This could explain why Aβ42 seems to be so crucial for AD pathogenesis.

A second point is that the...  Read more


  Comment by:  Dennis Selkoe, ARF Advisor (Disclosure)
Submitted 28 September 2005  |  Permalink Posted 28 September 2005

In his PNAS Perspective, Vincent Marchesi, in characteristic fashion, provides us with substantial food for thought. Dr. Marchesi presents a cogently argued hypothesis that provides an alternative—or perhaps an addition—to the concept that Aβ oligomers and/or amyloid fibrils injure neurons from without. Based on reported evidence that APP and Aβ can each occur as dimers in cholesterol-rich "lipid raft" domains of neuronal membranes, Dr. Marchesi proposes that APP dimers may be processed as such by the β- and γ-secretase s to yield Aβ dimers which, at least in part, remain in the membrane bilayer. He then suggests specific ways in which intramembranous dimers of Aβ could compromise the function of numerous other transmembrane proteins that share with Aβ the hydrophobic GxxxG motif, including the very proteins that help generate Aβ in the first place (presenilin and Aph-1). If membrane-retained rather than secreted Aβ is principally responsible for compromising neuronal function, Dr. Marchesi notes, perhaps experimental treatments designed to lower extracellular Aβ may miss their...  Read more

  Comment by:  Thomas Bayer
Submitted 28 September 2005  |  Permalink Posted 28 September 2005

The very interesting review of Dr. Vincent Marchesi deals with the notion that Aβ, once generated by diverse secretases, never leaves the membrane and exerts its toxicity by yet unknown mechanisms. Supporting this view, we and others have seen evidence that intraneuronal accumulation of Aβ42 is the main trigger for the pathological events leading to neuron loss and brain atrophy. Increased Aβ42 has been observed in postmortem brains of patients with beginning Alzheimer disease and Down syndrome, and several APP transgenic mouse models.

Increasing intraneuronal Aβ42 leads to an age-dependent neuron loss in hippocampus in two different APP/PS1 transgenic mouse models with no correlation to plaque load, that is, extracellular Aβ. Intraneuronal Aβ42 is primarily found in multivesicular bodies in these mice. Intraneuronal Aβ42 accumulation in the somatodendritic compartment may have an influence on axonal trafficking and integrity, an issue which is currently also debated. However, whether Aβ42 is closely associated with intracellular membranes or plasma membrane in these mice is...  Read more


  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 6 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 6 October 2005

Response by Vincent Marchesi to comments through 28 September 2005

Dr. Russo points out that if Aβ peptides or fragments of them remain within the lipid bilayer after their generation, Aβ42, with two additional hydrophobic residues, should be more stable within the bilayer than Aβ40, a factor that could account for its greater toxicity. He also raises the interesting possibility that the P-3 peptide, widely assumed to be nontoxic, whose sequence appears below, might be even more likely to partition within the bilayer, since it has the same hydrophobic core but lacks many of the polar residues of either Aβ fragment. If the β-secretase pathway is favored, as many suspect, there would be much less P-3 than either of the Aβs, but P-3 might be doing more than we realize. For one thing, its primary sequence exactly matches the homologous segments of the Aβs, as shown below, and it should, in principle, dimerize with either monomer. If the P-3 peptide is less toxic, for whatever reasons, could it function to neutralize the Aβs, acting as some kind of intramembranous...  Read more


  Comment by:  Gunnar K. Gouras
Submitted 7 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 7 October 2005

Dr. Marchesi provides refreshing insights into how accumulating membrane-associated Aβ may be involved in AD pathogenesis. For example, it is intriguing to consider that Aβ, which we thought accumulates in the inner aspect of outer limiting membranes of endosomes, may actually be embedded within the membrane bilayer. This could also illuminate why Aβ42 prefers to be retained in cells upon exocytosis of more soluble Aβ40 peptides.

Marchesi's Perspective article highlights the importance of investigating the biology of Aβ42 accumulating within neurons. What's the evidence for a detrimental role of intraneuronal Aβ, also in human AD? In short, by immuno-EM, accumulating intraneuronal Aβ42 and especially Aβ oligomers are associated with subcellular destruction, which equals neuronal dysfunction. This occurs in the absence of plaques. There is so much that needs to be uncovered, including how extracellular Aβ influences intracellular Aβ, the biology of APP/Aβ, PS1 and other AD-linked proteins, especially within synaptic membrane compartments, and the molecular mechanism by which...  Read more


  Comment by:  Ilse Dewachter, Fred Van Leuven (Disclosure)
Submitted 7 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 7 October 2005

The 12 Faces of Amyloid
The problem of the amyloid peptides always reminds us of an object in the Gallo-Roman museum in Tongeren, the oldest city of Belgium, located about 30 miles east of Leuven. The pentagonal dodecaeder is made of bronze (the museum shop sells tin replicas for 35 euros), and 90 such artifacts were found north of the Alps, in places ranging from England to the Balkan. They occurred in diverse archeological sites, i.e., military camps, public baths, city houses, theaters, graves, and even buried with a treasure of coins.

Nobody has the slightest idea what they are for, or what purpose they serve, either as a tool, jewel, symbol, toy, relic, instrument. The hypotheses and guesses are as diverse as they are wild. The parallel with the amyloid peptides is evident, although it's not perfect since the 90 known dodecaeders are all very similar and their 12 faces are identical—as opposed to the amyloid peptides that differ considerably depending on who is looking and through what tool!...  Read more


  Comment by:  David Holtzman
Submitted 10 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 10 October 2005

Vincent Marchesi puts forward a potential alternative mechanism as to how the amyloid-β (Aβ) peptide may be involved in the pathogenesis of Alzheimer disease (AD). Dr. Marchesi proposes the possibility that Aβ peptides might be exerting their toxic effects by never leaving the membrane lipid bilayer after they are generated, and that in the membrane, they might exert their toxic effects by competing with and compromising the functions of intramembranous segments of membrane-bound proteins that serve many critical functions.

This is an interesting hypothesis. Not being the first person to comment on the hypothesis, I note the thoughtful comments of the other scientists who have done so already. I try to add below some observations not noted by the other commentators. Dr. Marchesi first describes a series of observations described in the literature. While I think several of these observations are correct, I think there are a few points worth noting that I am not convinced occur in AD. For example, in the triple transgenic mouse strain produced by the LaFerla lab, some...  Read more


  Comment by:  Iwo Bohr
Submitted 11 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 11 October 2005

I am very glad to see hypotheses launching new ideas on the pathogenesis of AD. My content is even greater that this interesting hypothesis includes the role of cellular membranes in this process, which I find crucial, as well.

Having said that, I also share many of Dr. Selkoe's reservations towards Dr. Marchesi's concept. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that some fraction of Aβ may remain in the cellular membrane, followed by processes of dimerization and ensuing contributions to toxicity. Nevertheless, the fact is that low soluble products of APP cleavage accumulate mainly in the extracellular space. The long-lasting process of such accumulation may finally lead to formation of senile plaques. If presumed intramembrane Aβ accumulation had a big neurotoxic effect, one can expect that it would result in neuronal death before neurons would be able to produce great amounts of extracellular deposits, that is, unless intramembrane accumulation intensifies in later stages of pathological Aβ overproduction and/or low clearance. I can even give "a prompt" to Dr. Marchesi that it...  Read more


  Comment by:  Steve Barger (Disclosure)
Submitted 12 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 12 October 2005

In speculation about the potential roles of Aβ in neural health and disease, it is surprising how rarely discussants invoke the topic of physiologically appropriate synaptic remodeling.

The best working model that we have for the initiation of memory is long-term potentiation (LTP). However, this largely biochemical sequence of events does not explain memory to a level of complete satisfaction; the gap is made up, partially, by the conversion of the biochemical events of LTP into longer-term structural changes in the synapse. An equally important contribution to the development and consolidation of memory is likely to be made by long-term depression (LTD). And, if there is a structural component to synaptic potentiation, then synaptic or dendritic pruning is most certainly a structural analog in the biochemical depression of a synapse.

A physiological role for Aβ in these normal, depressive aspects of synaptic plasticity has been posited by others (1). In this model, the development of Alzheimer disease reflects a runaway tipping of the synaptic balance...  Read more


  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 14 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 14 October 2005

Dr. Holtzman is correct to point out that my views on the possible fate of cleaved Aβ peptides were heavily influenced by the finding of Kawarabayashi and coworkers, who showed that significant amounts of the Aβ42 peptides were found associated with lipid rafts isolated from both Tg animals and the brains of AD patients. He also notes, very appropriately, that because lipid raft fragments of membranes can at present only be isolated in the presence of nonionic detergents, the possibility exists that homogenizing cells or brain tissue that contain large amounts of extracellular Aβ in the presence of detergent could conceivably cause Aβ dimers to be entrapped in the rafts during homogenization as opposed to their having been generated there in situ. While I think this is unlikely, I agree that this important caveat has to be ruled out.

Dr. Barger reminds us that AD is much more than a complicated ensemble of proteolytic fragments that accumulate in damaged brain tissue. I like his suggestion, which I'm sure is shared by many, that a deeper analysis is needed of the role that Aβ...  Read more


  Comment by:  Robert Vassar, ARF Advisor
Submitted 19 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 19 October 2005

Research spanning the last two decades has increasingly implicated the Aβ peptide as a critical early player in the pathogenesis of AD. However, the mechanisms of Aβ-mediated toxicity and neurodegeneration in AD have been intensely debated and remain poorly understood. One of the most controversial issues concerning Aβ toxicity has regarded the form of Aβ that ultimately is responsible for the neuronal degeneration and death that are observed in AD brain. Compelling evidence suggests that the 42-amino-acid species, Aβ42, the overproduction of which strongly associates with familial AD, is the toxic agent in AD. However, beyond this, much mystery remains regarding the mechanism of Aβ42 toxicity. Paramount in this controversy over Aβ42 toxicity is the peptide's exact conformation, assembly state, and spatial localization in relation to the neuron. Multiple forms of Aβ, including fibrillar plaque-associated Aβ, small soluble Aβ oligomers, and intraneuronal Aβ accumulations, among others, have all been proposed to be neurotoxic in AD, and compelling evidence for each has been...  Read more

  Comment by:  George M. Martin, ARF Advisor (Disclosure)
Submitted 25 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 25 October 2005

I am "Johnny Come Lately" to this lively discussion. Most of the major points have already been made. Our lab has favored a major role for intracellular events as a basis for β amyloid toxicity since the early 1990s (Fukuchi et al., 1992; 1993). I hasten to add, however, that functional and structural damage from within and from without are not mutually exclusive.

Having known Vin Marchesi for many years, I have learned to pay very careful attention to his thoughtful papers. As a fellow pathologist, I am wondering how seriously he takes the more general proposition that additional forms of amyloidosis might be classified as "channelopathies" (BL Kagan et al., 2002; ARF Live Discussion ).

References:
Fukuchi K, Kamino K, Deeb SS, Smith AC, Dang T, Martin GM. Overexpression of amyloid precursor protein alters its normal processing and is associated with neurotoxicity. Biochem Biophys Res Commun. 1992 Jan 15;182(1):165-73. Abstract

Fukuchi K, Kamino K, Deeb SS, Furlong CE, Sundstrom JA, Smith AC, Martin GM. Expression of a carboxy-terminal region of the beta-amyloid precursor protein in a heterogeneous culture of neuroblastoma cells: evidence for altered processing and selective neurotoxicity. Brain Res Mol Brain Res. 1992 Nov;16(1-2):37-46. Abstract

Fukuchi K, Sopher B, Martin GM. Neurotoxicity of beta-amyloid. Nature. 1993 Jan 14;361(6408):122-3. Abstract

Kagan BL, Hirakura Y, Azimov R, Azimova R, Lin MC. The channel hypothesis of Alzheimer's disease: current status. Peptides. 2002 Jul;23(7):1311-5. Abstract

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  Comment by:  Roberto Malinow
Submitted 26 October 2005  |  Permalink Posted 26 October 2005

I've read this informative forum with interest. I believe our work may have some relevance to the question: Is secreted Aβ a pathogenic agent in Alzheimer disease?

We have reported that transient viral overexpression of APP depresses excitatory synaptic transmission (1), and now we have unpublished evidence that this also causes dendritic spine loss. This effect is seen by overexpression of C99, but not by APP-MV, a point mutant APP that is not efficiently cleaved by β-secretase but is cleaved by a-secretase (2). Along with other data (1), our results indicate that Aβ is responsible for the synaptic depression. I would note that since APP-MV does not produce synaptic depression, it is unlikely that P3 (the product of α- and γ-secretase) produces synaptic depression.

Our evidence supporting the view that secreted Aβ can produce synaptic depression comes from an experiment in which many postsynaptic neurons in a small region of a hippocampal slice are driven to overexpress APP. APP is coexpressed with GFP via an IRES construct so that cells overexpressing or not...  Read more


  Comment by:  Karen Hsiao Ashe
Submitted 1 November 2005  |  Permalink Posted 1 November 2005

Dr. Marchesi proposes that the accumulation of Aβ dimers in lipid rafts may disturb the normal regulation of APP cleavage, resulting in the overproduction of intramembranous Aβ dimers by creating a positive feedback mechanism for Aβ production. He proposes various effects of the abnormally high levels of intramembranous Aβ dimers including deleterious interactions with intramembranous segments of receptors, channels, and enzymes, like the presenilins and other secretases. He believes that these processes ultimately lead to neuronal death, which would in turn disrupt cognitive function. He also raises the important unanswered question of the physiological function of Aβ peptides in normal neurons, and suggests that certain lipid-associated Aβ peptides may facilitate normal function of ion channels or pumps or critical receptors. Presumably, the normal Aβ peptides are not the same as the pathological Aβ dimers, and the production of Aβ dimers may offset the levels or function of normal Aβ interactions within the membrane.

A provocative parallel is drawn between the GxxxG...  Read more


  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 5 November 2005  |  Permalink Posted 5 November 2005

Reply by Vincent Marchesi to comment by Karen Ashe

Based on her recent studies, Dr. Ashe states that "the intramembranous Aβ dimers do not contribute substantially to cause memory and cognitive dysfunction or neuronal loss in mice." I have the following reply:

Dr. Ashe suggests, and most observers would agree, that the transgenic mice she and her coworkers have generated are useful animal models to study various changes in mouse brains that mimic to some extent what appear to be comparable changes in the brains of human patients with AD. She goes on to suggest that memory loss of affected Tg 2576 animals occurs without "significant" neuronal or synaptic loss and cites various publications which support this view. Here I have serious reservations for a number of reasons. First, and most obvious, we simply don't know anything about the pathophysiology of the early events that lead to memory loss, in either mice or people. This being the case, there is no way to rule out the possibility that small amounts of Aβ, or some as yet undetected substance, might...  Read more


  Comment by:  Lawrence Rajendran, Kai Simons
Submitted 8 November 2005  |  Permalink Posted 8 November 2005

The hypothesis by Vincent Marchesi is attractive and timely. Given that considerable effort in investigating the pathogenesis of AD is spent on the effects of plaque-associated extracellular Aβ, the article makes one rethink the direction of current investigations. We add two points to the ongoing debate.

1. GxxxG motif of Aβ and channel formation
In assessing Marchesi's hypothesis that Aβ forms heterodimers with APP and thereby interferes with the yet-to-be-identified physiological function of APP, the field might consider a recent paper by James Bowie's group (Kim et al., 2005). In it, the authors present evidence for yet another alternative hypothesis. They have identified a motif present in many membrane proteins, called "transmembrane glycine zippers." Its basic unit is the GxxxG motif, similar to what Marchesi proposed. The Bowie group shows that Aβ and PrP peptides contain the glycine zipper motif and that the glycines in the GxxxG motif of Aβ are critical for channel formation and for neuronal cell death in vitro. The GxxxG motif thus appears to mediate...  Read more


  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 23 November 2005  |  Permalink Posted 23 November 2005

Vincent Marchesi: Summary and Impressions
It is a measure of the maturity of the Alzheimer disease field that many of its most prominent investigators seem willing, at least provisionally, to consider an alternative interpretation to the Aβ hypothesis that rests on so little experimental support. I take as one of the compelling reasons the fact that so many of the respondents share my view that the precise means by which Aβ peptides damage neurons and induce synaptic dysfunction are still very much unsettled issues. Even more unclear, in my opinion, is how the physicochemical changes that we measure can affect human memory, or what we attribute to memory in experimental animals.

By drawing attention to the possibility that Aβ peptides might concentrate within the membrane lipid bilayer itself, with the capacity to affect vital membrane functions, we have a whole new biochemistry to deal with and an opportunity to explore the biological consequences of hydrophobic interactions within a nonaqueous milieu. A large fraction of our functioning genome codes for...  Read more


  Comment by:  Gerd Multhaup, Lisa-Marie Munter
Submitted 1 December 2005  |  Permalink Posted 2 December 2005

We have done experimental work on the GxxxG motif of APP since we realized, almost 3 years ago, that it is part of the Aβ domain. To contribute to the theoretical discussion on a possible impact of the GxxxG motif on APP processing and Aβ toxicity, we would like to summarize shortly the data we have produced so far and that were presented at the last Society for Neuroscience conference in Washington.

This motif has a dual role for APP and Aβ. When we analyzed Aβ generation, we found strong evidence that the γ-secretase cleavage site depends on the oligomeric form of its substrate, which is strongly influenced by the GxxxG motif. Our results show that APP dimerization mediated by the transmembrane sequence decides on Aβ42 generation. In Aβ, the same motif determines if mature fibrils are formed. The enclosed abstract provides information as given at the SfN conference on 14 November in Washington.

Dimeric assembly of the APP membrane-spanning domain defines a selective γ-secretase cleavage site

LM Munter (FU Berlin), P Voigt (UKBF), E Lindner (TU München), M Schaefer...  Read more


  Comment by:  Brigita Urbanc, ARF Advisor
Submitted 1 November 2006  |  Permalink Posted 1 November 2006

It is refreshing to read about alternatives to the amyloid hypothesis. Vincent Marchesi's is provocative, as any new hypothesis should be. The Alzforum discussion was fantastic. As a computational physicist, I like to take a minimalist approach when dealing with the unknown (by unknown I mean cleavage of APP, Aβ formation, and early aggregation events), and can add a different perspective.

Even though I found each of the comments very helpful, Dennis Selkoe answered most of the questions that I had while reading the Marchesi paper. One of his comments was that we need to distinguish between the normal and pathogenic processes involved in Aβ secretion. Thus, I would say we need first a hypothesis on the normal processing and function of Aβ. Are the cleaved APP dimer and the resulting Aβ dimer a part of a normal or pathogenic process? Most importantly, we need to find ways to test this hypothesis. This cannot be done in transgenic mouse models, which complicates the problem.

When bringing up pro- and counter examples for an AD hypothesis (be it the...  Read more

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