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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: John Trojanowski, ARF Advisor
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Submitted 17 October 2004
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Posted 17 October 2004
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This is a very interesting paper that adds to our understanding of the in-vivo biology of plaques, and it would be interesting to add further nuances to these insights by comparing the effects of diffuse versus neuritic plaques on the integrity of dendrites, since in an earlier study >10 years ago of diffuse plaques in human cerebellum ( Li, et al., 1994), we did not see evidence of plaque toxicity on Purkinje cell dendrites, but in addition to the fact that we restricted our observations to diffuse plaques, the methods we used were diffrent from those reported here by Tsai et al. Nonetheless, given the many known differences between diffuse and neuritic plaques, it would be important to understand if these differences also extend to the relative toxic potential of each of these plaque types, since diffuse plaques may harbor components that mitigate toxicity which are not found in neuritic plaques.
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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: Michael Shelanski
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Submitted 17 October 2004
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Posted 18 October 2004
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In studies quite similar to those of Tsai et al., we did not see clear associations between amyloid plaques and the loss of dendritic spines (Moolman et al., 2004), though we did a observe a similar (approximately 50 percent) loss of spines in two different mouse models of AD at 11 months of age and a suggestion of loss at eight months of age. We have tended toward the view that it is soluble Aβ rather than Aβ that is organized into plaques that are responsible for alterations in synaptic plasticity. It is certainly possible that soluble Aβ is higher in the region of the plaque, and that would reconcile the observations. Floyd Bloom's lab has pointed to dendritic alterations very early in the life of another AD model mouse prior to significant plaque formation, but did not specifically look at spines (Wu et al., 2004).
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Moolman DL, Vitolo OV, Vonsattel JP, Shelanski ML. Dendrite and dendritic spine alterations in Alzheimer models. J Neurocytol. 2004 May ;33(3):377-87. Abstract
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In studies quite similar to those of Tsai et al., we did not see clear associations between amyloid plaques and the loss of dendritic spines (Moolman et al., 2004), though we did a observe a similar (approximately 50 percent) loss of spines in two different mouse models of AD at 11 months of age and a suggestion of loss at eight months of age. We have tended toward the view that it is soluble Aβ rather than Aβ that is organized into plaques that are responsible for alterations in synaptic plasticity. It is certainly possible that soluble Aβ is higher in the region of the plaque, and that would reconcile the observations. Floyd Bloom's lab has pointed to dendritic alterations very early in the life of another AD model mouse prior to significant plaque formation, but did not specifically look at spines (Wu et al., 2004).
References:
Moolman DL, Vitolo OV, Vonsattel JP, Shelanski ML. Dendrite and dendritic spine alterations in Alzheimer models. J Neurocytol. 2004 May ;33(3):377-87. Abstract
Wu CC, Chawla F, Games D, Rydel RE, Freedman S, Schenk D, Young WG, Morrison JH, Bloom FE. Selective vulnerability of dentate granule cells prior to amyloid deposition in PDAPP mice: digital morphometric analyses. Proc Natl Acad Sci U S A. 2004 May 4;101(18):7141-6. Epub 2004 Apr 26. Abstract
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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: Gunnar K. Gouras
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Submitted 20 October 2004
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Posted 20 October 2004
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These interesting papers by Tsai et al. and Moolman et al. further support the idea that neuronal processes are important sites of damage during AD pathogenesis. A major question, of course, is why are processes being damaged? Is there any damage prior to plaques? Both papers consider the possibility that increases in levels of soluble Aβ may be important. In addition, increasing evidence supports a role for intraneuronal Aβ accumulation in the degeneration of processes (for example, see Wirths et al., 2004, for a current review).
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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: Steven Finkbeiner
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Submitted 20 October 2004
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Posted 20 October 2004
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I think the data in the Gan paper is quite beautiful. I especially
liked the time-lapse results in Figure 2 using the transcranial
approach. I think their findings nicely extend previous work that
showed an association between abnormalities of dendrites and the
proximity of plaques. I also am especially interested in the effects
on the rate of spine formation and elimination, since I think a lot of
the symptoms in AD probably arise from synaptic dysfunction rather
than neuronal death.
The work also raises a lot of intriguing questions. Is the effect
they see really due to the amyloid in the plaque or is the plaque a
major source for more toxic diffusible forms of Aβ whose
concentration is therefore high around the plaque? Either model would
explain the close relationship between the existence of dendritic
abnormalities and their distance from the plaque. However, the answer
would have big implications for developing therapeutic strategies. To
answer the question, they would need some way to simultaneously
visualize both forms of Aβ (plaque and diffusible) in...
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I think the data in the Gan paper is quite beautiful. I especially
liked the time-lapse results in Figure 2 using the transcranial
approach. I think their findings nicely extend previous work that
showed an association between abnormalities of dendrites and the
proximity of plaques. I also am especially interested in the effects
on the rate of spine formation and elimination, since I think a lot of
the symptoms in AD probably arise from synaptic dysfunction rather
than neuronal death.
The work also raises a lot of intriguing questions. Is the effect
they see really due to the amyloid in the plaque or is the plaque a
major source for more toxic diffusible forms of Aβ whose
concentration is therefore high around the plaque? Either model would
explain the close relationship between the existence of dendritic
abnormalities and their distance from the plaque. However, the answer
would have big implications for developing therapeutic strategies. To
answer the question, they would need some way to simultaneously
visualize both forms of Aβ (plaque and diffusible) in living
tissue. Another question is whether the plaque-associated
abnormalities are a major or minor contributor to the overall
behavioral phenotype—that one is a lot tougher.
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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: Michael Calhoun
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Submitted 21 October 2004
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Posted 22 October 2004
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I agree with the previous comments in that this paper provides elegant confirmation of earlier research on how plaques impact neural structure. In addition, they show a substantial increase in the turnover of spines and dystrophic axon terminals, indicating that abnormal plasticity is occurring. Whether this is caused by amyloid or other diffusible molecules such as growth factors, this abnormality is likely to strain the capacity to produce, synchronize, and transport plasticity-related proteins—in addition to the obvious negative effects of the structural changes. It will, thus, also be interesting to see how this relates to the function of affected neural systems. View all comments by Michael Calhoun
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Primary News: Caught in the Act—Amyloid Damages Neurons
Comment by: Jorge Parodi
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Submitted 25 October 2004
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Posted 25 October 2004
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This paper shows a nice view of the neurodegeneration of dendritic spines, but I am not really sure how it relates plaques to mophological changes. In this experiment we would need examine the role of the glia cells, and their contribution to plaque formation. I wonder if it is possible to see the same effect without glial cells? View all comments by Jorge Parodi
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