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Winton MJ, Lee EB, Sun E, Wong MM, Leight S, Zhang B, Trojanowski JQ, Lee VM. Intraneuronal APP, not free Aβ peptides in 3xTg-AD mice: implications for tau versus Aβ-mediated Alzheimer neurodegeneration. J Neurosci. 2011 May 25;31(21):7691-9. PubMed Abstract

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  Comment by:  Frank LaFerla, ARF Advisor, Salvatore Oddo
Submitted 2 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 2 June 2011

Winton et al. use histochemistry and a variety of antibodies to conclude that the 3xTg-AD mice lack intracellular Aβ. This study also uses a genetic approach to conclude that Aβ does not modulate tau pathology in 3xTg-AD mice. We find that the data presented do not justify the conclusions. In the following discussion, we point out that the authors’ own data demonstrate the presence of intraneuronal Aβ in the 3xTg-AD mice. We and many others have reported multiple studies over the past decade that argue against these conclusions; however, Winton et al. failed to discuss these studies.

We believe the clear discrepancies between Winton et al. and previous publications likely result from the relative affinities of the various neoepitope antibodies used. To try to detect intracellular Aβ, Winton et al, rely heavily on two neoepitope antibodies, BA27 and BC05. These antibodies are most commonly used for biochemical Aβ ELISA measurements, but it is unclear how effective they are for immunofluorescence analysis, as only low-powered images are provided in the paper. It is well...  Read more


  Comment by:  Charles Glabe, ARF Advisor
Submitted 3 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 3 June 2011

Virginia Lee and coworkers have convincingly demonstrated that the perinuclear, intracellular Aβ immunoreactivity observed in a subset of neurons in the 3xTg-AD mouse is predominantly, if not exclusively, APP and not Aβ. Moreover, they demonstrate that this intracellular immunoreactivity does not require BACE activity, indicating that it does not come from the same pathway that produces secreted Aβ.

Does this mean that intracellular accumulation of APP is insignificant and we can disregard it? As the authors state, these findings “warrant further study as to the role of aberrant APP accumulation.” The accumulation of APP is abnormal because it is age related and it only takes place in a subset of neurons. Similar intraneuronal accumulation of Aβ and APP immunoreactivity is also observed in humans, where it appears to be associated with the earliest signs of AD pathology, while it declines with advancing AD pathology and is largely absent in non-demented individuals that lack AD pathology (1). This suggests that intracellular accumulation of APP may be one of the earliest...  Read more


  Comment by:  Malu G. Tansey
Submitted 3 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 3 June 2011

As mentioned in the discussion, we and others had already noted that Aβ peptides were not a major component of the intraneuronal 6E10 immunoreactivity originally reported by the LaFerla lab in the paper by Kitazawa et al., where they showed this was accelerated by chronic systemic inflammation (Kitazawa et al., 2005). We used Dennis Selkoe's C9 anti-APP antibody to distinguish between Aβ and full-length APP/APP-derived fragments, and concluded that the species which accumulates intraneuronally in 3xTg-AD mice exposed to chronic systemic inflammogen (LPS) was likely to be β-CTF. Inhibition of TNF signaling appears to be driving the process (McAlpine et al., 2009). Our biochemical and immunohistological analyses did not reveal robust accumulation of Aβ peptides in 3xTg-AD mice under basal conditions or in response to chronic systemic inflammation. Still, those studies suggested that it may be feasible to selectively target soluble TNF therapeutically to prevent dysregulated APP turnover...  Read more

  Comment by:  Christian Pike
Submitted 6 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 6 June 2011

Like Frank LaFerla and Salvo Oddo, I have concerns with the findings and conclusions of Winton and colleagues. Their data clearly demonstrate that several APP and Aβ antibodies share similar patterns of intraneuronal immunoreactivity that persist even in a BACE-/- background that precludes Aβ formation. Although these findings provide compelling evidence that intraneuronal Aβ immunoreactivity in 3xTg-AD mice may represent APP species, there are also a few issues which argue against this conclusion.

In some of my lab’s prior work with 3xTg-AD mice (Rosario et al., 2006; Carroll et al., 2007), we compared the patterns of immunoreactivity for antibodies against Aβ and APP C-terminal fragments to exclude the possibility that the observed intraneuronal Aβ immunostaining largely reflected APP species. We found that Aβ and APP-CTF exhibit qualitatively distinct immunoreactivities that differ both in cellular localization and temporal expression. APP-CTF immunoreactivity in 3xTg-AD mice is localized along the periphery of the soma and is clearly extranuclear, such that large,...  Read more


  Comment by:  Thomas Bayer, Oliver Wirths
Submitted 7 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 7 June 2011

Winton et al. demonstrated that the 3xTg mouse model suggests that APP accumulates in an age-dependent manner with no signs for intraneuronal Aβ up to the age of 12 months. In previous publications by the LaFerla group (1) and others, the 3xTg-AD mouse has been used as a model with early intraneuronal Aβ pathology. There has been always an issue whether epitopes of diverse Aβ antibodies also cross-react with its parent molecule APP. For example, Aho et al. demonstrated that often it is APP rather than Aβ that is detected intracellularly when using antibodies like 4G8, 6E10, and 82E1 clones that are unable to distinguish Aβ from APP (2). Unfortunately, these antibodies have been widely used in many studies, likely due to their high sensitivity in tissue sections.

This issue has been a major concern also for us, as we have been one of the solicitors for the “intraneuronal Aβ hypothesis” (3). Therefore, we have used different approaches during the last years to analyze whether intraneuronal Aβ is a risk factor for AD.

1. In the APP/PS1KI mouse model, there is early and...  Read more


  Comment by:  Nikolaos K. Robakis
Submitted 7 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 7 June 2011

The current debate catalyzed by the important paper of Winton et al. highlights a serious concern facing the AD field, namely, the relevance of transgenic animal models to the neurodegeneration of AD, the real cause of dementia. Most transgenic models currently used in AD research overexpress high levels of exogenous APP (many times over endogenous APP), an artificial condition not applicable to AD where there is no APP overexpression. Moreover, protein overexpression in brain often causes toxicities due to diverse reasons, including possible interference of the overexpressed protein with normal cellular trafficking, which may not be relevant to disease mechanisms (see also Robakis, 2011; Pimplikar et al., 2010).

The APP-overexpressing transgenic animals may serve as models of amyloidosis. However, it should be kept in mind that although amyloidosis in these animals is driven by overproduction of Aβ peptides (due to overexpression of APP), there is little evidence of Aβ...  Read more


  Comment by:  Lars Nilsson
Submitted 8 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 8 June 2011

The study by Winton et al. is a well-designed study that provides important new information on a frequently used animal model of Alzheimer’s disease. However, based on the results presented, I would be cautious to conclude that intraneuronal Aβ accumulation does not occur in 3xTg-AD. We have never had the opportunity to examine the neuropathology of 3xTg-AD, but we do have considerable experience with Tg-ArcSwe and Tg-Swe mice.

Winton et al. used paraffin-embedded material (e.g., Fig. 1), and in our hands, it is difficult to detect intraneuronal Aβ in such tissues. Far greater sensitivity is reached by instead using frozen tissue sections, paraformaldehyde-fixed (4 percent) or unfixed, and immersing them in heated citric acid and formic acid for antigen retrieval. With N-terminal cleavage-specific antibodies, it is quite easy to detect intraneuronal Aβ, but with C-terminal cleavage-specific antibodies, the protocols need to be well optimized (especially with tissues from young mice). Moreover, age and anatomic location are important parameters to consider. We have noticed...  Read more


  Comment by:  Vincent Marchesi, ARF Advisor
Submitted 9 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 9 June 2011

How can mice with so many genetic defects possibly reflect the pathophysiology of the earliest, asymptomatic, pre-amyloid accumulation stages of human AD? If this question cannot be answered positively and persuasively, it matters little what form of APP is being analyzed by the different antisera.

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  Comment by:  Sanjay W. Pimplikar
Submitted 10 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 10 June 2011

It is a healthy sign that the paper by Winton et al. has initiated a debate over intraneuronal Aβ, as more studies are appearing in the literature suggesting that intraneuronal Aβ could play a pathological role in Alzheimer’s disease (AD). This issue can be debated at the technical level in terms of antibody specificity and what a given antibody "sees" or "does not see" in brain sections. The debate can also commence at the biological level to see how the concept of intraneuronal Aβ fits with what we know about the subcellular locations where APP is processed by BACE and γ-secretase.

As pointed out by Thomas Bayer and others, both 6E10 and 4G8 antibodies recognize the Aβ portion in full-length APP and APP-C-terminal fragments. When these antibodies are used in Western blotting, it is easy to distinguish Aβ from other fragments because of its size. Obviously, this is not possible in immunohistochemical analysis. Therefore, scientists rely on double-staining using one of these antibodies in conjunction with a C-terminal antibody (which should see other forms of APP except Aβ)...  Read more


  Comment by:  Estibaliz Capetillo-Zarate, Gunnar K. Gouras, ARF Advisor, Michael Lin, Davide Tampellini
Submitted 13 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 13 June 2011

We agree with previous comments that Winton and colleagues provide interesting new evidence of APP accumulation and the possible lack of interaction between Aβ and tau in the triple-transgenic mouse. However, this paper is not enough to counter the hundreds of papers now on intraneuronal Aβ in Alzheimer’s disease, and the triple-transgenic mouse remains an important model of both β amyloid and tau pathogenesis. Dystrophic neurites in human AD show APP accumulation; the precise form of this APP isn’t fully clear. It is possible that the development of AD might be characterized by an increase of APP accumulation earlier than Aβ (such as occurs in head injury). Winton et al. also highlight the problem of using Aβ domain antibodies (such as 6E10, 4G8, etc.) to differentiate Aβ from APP.

Our main point in this comment is that intraneuronal Aβ is not easy to see, particularly when you compare it to more easily detectable APP. Aβ is also a changing target. As we well know, it likes to aggregate, but the Aβ42 end-specific antibodies are remarkably specific for the monomer form...  Read more


  Comment by:  Dennis Selkoe, ARF Advisor (Disclosure)
Submitted 13 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 13 June 2011

In my view, the paper by Winton et al. supports the key point that one can prove the existence of intraneuronal Aβ only by using end-specific Aβ antibodies (i.e., to Aβ Ile42 or Val40, and, to a lesser extent, Asp1) that cannot recognize any APP epitopes other than the free Aβ peptide. This would exclude numerous antibodies that are not truly end-specific and recognize epitopes in holoAPP, C99 and C83, and/or APPs-α.

Also, more studies using sensitive biochemical assays to extract free intracellular Aβ from cells and quantify it would be useful, if this has not yet been widely done by multiple labs. One would need to use methods to eliminate any Aβ peptides bound to the outside surface of cells before lysing the cells and quantifying free Aβ inside the cells (or specifically within their membrane vesicles).

Obviously, Aβ is normally generated by β- and γ-secretases within vesicles inside cells (in addition to on the plasma membrane), but these initially intracellular peptides are efficiently secreted under wild-type circumstances. The question is, How much of Aβ at...  Read more


  Comment by:  Virgil Muresan, Zoia Muresan
Submitted 13 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 13 June 2011

We would like to comment on a few issues raised by this paper and previous comments, starting with the now old observations from various groups, Gunnar Gouras’s in particular (1), that in the AD brain Aβ accumulates in a population of neurons in the vulnerable brain regions. Often, some Aβ also accumulates intraneuronally in the non-AD brain. This should not be surprising.

Yet, these data are questioned again and again, mostly based on disbelief that the antibodies used for immunocytochemistry/immunohistochemistry (ICC/IHC) detect genuine Aβ. Indeed, this should be of concern in any ICC/IHC experiment, and this is why adequate controls are required. Antibodies usually recognize epitopes present in immunogens, mostly in the conformation present in the immunogen. Some antibodies work great on immunoblots but are useless in ICC/IHC. Others work well in ICC/IHC but detect the antigen poorly on immunoblots. Numerous other factors may lead to uncertainties as to what the molecular species the antibodies detect in situ really is. The problem is even more complicated with detection...  Read more


  Comment by:  A. Claudio Cuello
Submitted 14 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 14 June 2011

The paper by Winton et al. is a well-written and comprehensive study of the nature of intracellular Aβ-immunoreaction (IR) as observed in very representative transgenic (Tg) animal models. The proposition that only APP material is present intraneuronally in such models is indeed thought provoking. Most of us in the field will accept that the intraneuronal Aβ immunoreactive material might represent a variety of molecular species, notably the APP C-terminal fragment (C-99), APP (as well illustrated in this publication), and a variety of Aβ species—monomeric, soluble oligomeric, and fibrillar forms. The report does not, however, invalidate the comprehensive and well-supported work done by the groups of LaFerla, Gouras, Bayer, our own lab, and others.

In my view, it is risky to assert that a given molecule (Aβ), which exists as N-terminally and C-terminally truncated forms (and is conformationally diverse in its presentation) is not present because it cannot be demonstrated in certain immunohistochemical conditions. In this case, 10 percent formaldehyde fixation, a procedure...  Read more


  Comment by:  Gerd Multhaup
Submitted 14 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 14 June 2011

The intraneuronal pool of Aβ may have a double origin, which should be incorporated in the discussion raised by findings by Winton et al. that question the existence of intraneuronal Aβ in the 3xTg mouse model.

Seminal findings by laboratories headed by Beyreuther and Glabe reported more than 15 years ago that exogenous Aβ42 is taken up from the extracellular space and may result in accumulation of amyloidogenic fragments in different cell lines (Knauer et al., 1992; Ida et al., 1996). Interestingly, Ida et al. found an Aβ-specific clearance activity inside of neuroblastoma SH-SY5Y cells. Cellular uptake of Aβ was also reported to occur in rat microglia cells when removal of Aβ from the medium and an accumulation in the cells was observed (Ard et al., 1996).

Although the molecular mechanisms for neuronal Aβ internalization have remained unclear, the involvement of numerous receptors in endocytosis of Aβ was described, as well as an...  Read more


  Comment by:  P. Hemachandra Reddy
Submitted 15 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 16 June 2011

The current debate on intraneuronal amyloid β (Aβ) in Frank LaFerla’s mice is thought provoking to the entire Alzheimer’s disease (AD) research community because Aβ is a key factor in progression and pathogenesis. In view of that, I read the paper by Winton et al. with great interest. Dr. Lee and colleagues have characterized AD mouse models (3xTg-AD, 3xTg-AD/BACE-/-, BACE-/-, and non-transgenic WT mice) in order to determine the existence of intraneuronal Aβ, and reported that intraneuronal Aβ is absent in 3xTg-AD mice. In our experience, immunostaining analysis using fixed tissues is unreliable and requires extensive optimization. Thus, the conclusion that intraneuronal Aβ is not present in 3xTg-AD mice needs further investigation.

We extensively characterized postmortem brains from AD patients and control subjects, cortical tissues from APP/PS1 mice, and primary neurons from Tg2576 mice using 6E10, 1-40, 1-42, and A11 antibodies. We found excessive amounts 4 kDa Aβ, and also oligomeric Aβ and full-length APP and other APP derivatives in AD patients, APP/PS1 mice, and...  Read more


  Comment by:  Wataru Araki
Submitted 19 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 20 June 2011

The paper by Winton et al. has raised a debate on the significance of intraneuronal Aβ. I generally agree with the opinions by Frank LaFerla, Salvo Oddo, Christian Pike, and Gunnar Gouras et al., arguing that the data are insufficient to disprove the presence of intraneuronal free Aβ.

Visualization of intraneuronal Aβ by endo-specific antibodies requires appropriate immunodetection methods, including pretreatment for antigen retrieval (e.g., treatment with formic acid). Therefore, it is possible that the absence of immunopositive signals with endo-specific Aβ antibodies (BC05 and BA27) was due to inefficient antigen retrieval. The authors compared 3xTg-AD mice with 3xTg-AD-BACE knockout mice, but the comparison did not yield information about whether BACE deficiency has any effect on intraneuronal Aβ.

I'd like to emphasize that intraneuronal Aβ, especially Aβ42, is detectable in our mouse model without APP overexpression (Chui et al., 1999). Intracellular Aβ is evident in many cellular models including ours (Takeda et al., 2004). However, it is true that intracellular...  Read more


  Comment by:  Heng Du, Frank Gunn-Moore, Shirley ShiDu Yan
Submitted 20 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 20 June 2011

So APP might also exist inside cells: Didn’t we know this already? The question now appears to be whether there is more APP than shorter forms of Aβ inside cells.

We evaluated accumulation of mitochondrial Aβ in mitochondrial fractions in the presence of digitonin to diminish contamination with other organelles. To investigate whether Aβ was within the organelle (i.e., within a membrane-enclosed compartment) or adsorbed to the outer mitochondrial membrane, we performed protease protection to investigate whether Aβ was within the organelle (i.e., within a membrane-enclosed compartment) or adsorbed to its outer membrane. The data indicated that most of mitochondria-associated Aβ was in a protected, membrane-bound compartment (8). Western blotting, confocal microscopy, and immunoelectron microscopy have shown in human AD patients that Aβ is present intracellularly, including mitochondria (2,8,10,14).

Hansson Petersen et al. demonstrated that Aβ is localized in mitochondria of human aged brain from surgical biopsy tissue by immunogold EM with a specific Aβ antibody....  Read more


  Comment by:  Jia Yao
Submitted 20 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 20 June 2011

I agree with Dr. Reddy's comments. The mitochondrial localization of various Aβ species constitutes direct evidence of intraneuronal Aβ accumulation rather than APP. We have used the 6E10 antibody to detect multiple Aβ species in purified mitochondrial fractions by Western blot. In the 3xTg-AD mouse model, we observed at least three distinct bands with molecular weight at full APP size (~130 kD, ~56 kD, and a 16 kD size band). Although we did not observe the 4 kD amyloid monomer in our mitochondrial prep, we believe the 16 kD band is likely to represent the Aβ tetramer and cannot be explained by abnormally folded full-length APP.

Similarly, in the Tg2576 model, Reddy's group demonstrated a 4 kD Western band in a purified brain mitochondrial prep. In mutant APP-expressing N2A cell lines, this group identified oligomers of Aβ at various sizes (mainly 16 kD, 27 kD, and ~40 kD).

The small immuno-bands (4 kD, 16 kD, 27 kD, 56 kD) observed in isolated mitochondrial fraction from the 3xTg-AD mice, Tg2576 mice, and other APP transgenic models more or less provide evidence of...  Read more


  Comment by:  Carlos A. Saura
Submitted 20 June 2011  |  Permalink Posted 20 June 2011

There is compelling evidence that Aβ generated from the sequential cleavage of APP by β-secretase and PS/γ-secretase is both secreted at the extracellular space and accumulated intracellularly in cultured cells and brains from transgenic mouse models and AD. The general picture raised by a large number of studies from independent labs, including our group, is that intracellular Aβ is commonly detected in the brains of several AD transgenic mouse models including 3xTg-AD, APP/PS1KI, 5xFAD, R1.40, APPSw,Ind, and APPInd (Tampellini et al. 2010; Oddo et al., 2003; Casas et al., 2004; Oakley et al., 2006; Gimenez-Llort et al., 2007; España et al., 2010; Manczak et al., 2011).

Winton and colleagues add a new perspective and raise doubt about previous studies in 3xTg-AD mice. Our recent studies of Aβ staining with 2G3 antibody, specific for Aβ40, and an Aβ42 antibody, revealed robust intraneuronal Aβ in the basolateral amygdala (BLA), and to a lesser extent in CA1/CA3 hippocampus (20-40 percent of cells) and layer V of the neocortex (20 percent of neurons of this layer) in...  Read more

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