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6 May 1999. Last year Deborah Blacker, Rudolph Tanzi and their
colleagues reported finding a strong association between a deletion of
exon 18 in the gene for α2 macroglobulin (A2M) and Alzheimer's
disease. The odds ratio was 3.56, comparable to the odds that a person
with the Apo4 allele would develop AD.
In this month's issue of Nature Genetics (1999 May; vol 22), Dow et
al. (p. 16), Rudrasingham et al. (p. 17), and Rogaeva et al. (p. 19)
report that they failed to find this association. "We think it's pretty
clear that the search for the chromosome 12 Alzheimer's gene must
continue," said Jonathan Haines, one of the authors of the Rogaeva
et al. study.
Blacker and colleagues are not convinced, however. In their response
(p. 21), they say they are not surprised that the case-control portions
of the three studies do not replicate their family-based studies. They
cite study design problems in these studies. And they feel vindicated
that Rudrasingham et al. did find some (albeit weaker) correlations
between A2M and AD when they analyzed some of the same family data
Blacker et al. had used. Finally, Blacker et al. argue that there were
problems with the application of statistical methods by these other
three groups.-Hakon Heimer.
References:
Dow DJ, Lindsey N, Cairns NJ, Brayne C, Robinson D, Huppert FA, Paykel ES, Xuereb J, Wilcock G, Whittaker JL, Rubinsztein DC. Alpha-2 macroglobulin polymorphism and Alzheimer disease risk in the UK. Nat Genet 1999 May;22(1):16-7. Abstract
Rogaeva EA, Premkumar S, Grubber J, Serneels L, Scott WK, Kawarai T, Song Y, Hill DL, Abou-Donia SM, Martin ER, Vance JJ, Yu G, Orlacchio A, Pei Y, Nishimura M, Supala A, Roberge B, Saunders AM, Roses AD, Schmechel D, Crane-Gatherum A, Sorbi S, Bruni A, Small GW, Pericak-Vance MA, et al. An alpha-2-macroglobulin insertion-deletion polymorphism in Alzheimer disease. Nat Genet 1999 May;22(1):19-22. Abstract
Rudrasingham V, Wavrant-De Vrieze F, Lambert JC, Chakraverty S, Kehoe P, Crook R, Amouyel P, Wu W, Rice F, Perez-Tur J, Frigard B, Morris JC, Carty S, Petersen R, Cottel D, Tunstall N, Holmans P, Lovestone S, Chartier-Harlin MC, Goate A, Hardy J, Owen MJ, Williams J. Alpha-2 macroglobulin gene and Alzheimer disease. Nat Genet 1999 May;22(1):17-9. Abstract
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Response from Allen Roses et al. to Tanzi Comment
Below please find a short, absolute rebuttal to the comments made
by Rudy Tanzi. It is followed by a fairly detailed commentary on each point,
including copies of relevant dated correspondence that clarify the facts.
Despite the claims and exhortations proposed to support an association
of AD and an alpha-2-macroglobulin polymorphism, the evidence from multiple
laboratories provides no support for the association. Scientists should
expect robust confirmations to be clear and universal, as with the association
of APOE4 with AD, especially when statements referring to a stronger effect
of A2M are part of the publicity. A careful reading of the information attached
will clarify the data, the effect of Dr. Tanzi's commercial conflict of
interest, and his clear deviation from facts.
I should point out that I have had a clear academic, and now a commercial,
interest in the therapy of AD. We have no commercial or academic interest
in the non-association of A2M with AD. It is now confirmed that a second
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Response from Allen Roses et al. to Tanzi Comment
Below please find a short, absolute rebuttal to the comments made
by Rudy Tanzi. It is followed by a fairly detailed commentary on each point,
including copies of relevant dated correspondence that clarify the facts.
Despite the claims and exhortations proposed to support an association
of AD and an alpha-2-macroglobulin polymorphism, the evidence from multiple
laboratories provides no support for the association. Scientists should
expect robust confirmations to be clear and universal, as with the association
of APOE4 with AD, especially when statements referring to a stronger effect
of A2M are part of the publicity. A careful reading of the information attached
will clarify the data, the effect of Dr. Tanzi's commercial conflict of
interest, and his clear deviation from facts.
I should point out that I have had a clear academic, and now a commercial,
interest in the therapy of AD. We have no commercial or academic interest
in the non-association of A2M with AD. It is now confirmed that a second
susceptibility locus for AD is located on chromosome 12, but A2M is simply
not it.
Allen D. Roses, M.D.
Vice-President and World-Wide Director, Genetics
Co-Chair, Exploratory Discovery Board
Glaxo Wellcome R&D
Correspondence submitted by: Jonathan Haines, Margaret Pericak-Vance,
Lindsay Farrar, Bill Scott, Ann Saunders, Peter St George-Hyslop, and Allen
Roses
Dr. Tanzi raises a litany of concerns in his commentaries starting 5/13/99.
As summarized in the following two paragraphs, and as described in more
detail in the subsequent paragraphs, his arguments are logically or factually weak and his comments sometimes inappropriate.
Dr. Tanzi implies that adding non-significant results to significant results,
and then still getting a (much less) significant result constitutes independent
replication. This is obviously not true. Dr. Tanzi also implies that the
family-based studies of Rogaeva et al. are hampered by small sample size,
when in fact the sample sizes (105 total non-NIMH families, 143 NIMH families)
are both equivalent to or larger than that used in his own original study
(102 NIMH families). Dr. Tanzi implies that linkage to a broad region of
chromosome 12 indicts specifically A2M, when in fact it indicts all genes
in that region. Dr. Tanzi seeks support from the Val1000Ile study he performed
in a case-control series. However, this result was marginal, has not been
confirmed in other datasets (including the NIMH family dataset), and the
A2M-2 result was not seen in his case-control dataset. Thus, far from supporting
his assertions, a full accounting of the data raises even more doubt. Dr.
Tanzi neglects to mention the fact that the A2M-2 allele has no biological
effect. Dr. Tanzi has been fully aware for four months that the genotypes
generated in his lab and in our labs are 96% concordant, and that genotyping
discrepancies cannot explain the difference in the results between the two
datasets. The only valid explanation of the difference is that the original
result is not robust and does not replicate when applied to additional families
from the NIMH collection. Finally, Dr. Tanzi has not fully declared his
potential conflict of interest in this matter. On March 2nd, one day before
our paper received its final acceptance (and after four months of review
primarily to answer Dr. Tanzi's concerns), Genoplex, Inc. announced an exclusive
deal with Dr. Tanzi for rights to the A2M results.
We have elected to reply to his comments in order to rectify, for the scientific
community, the misleading and sometimes-erroneous statements contained in
Dr Tanzi's commentaries. However, we would state up front that we have no
interest in further perseveration on this discussion. The issues are really
very clear! We believe that our four independent data sets, re-evaluation
of an enlarged subset of the NIMH data set (the one studied by Tanzi and
colleagues), and expression and protein studies of the A2M insertion-deletion
polymorphism, as well as the studies of Dow et al and Rudrasingham et al,
in the aggregate provide compelling evidence against an association between
AD and A2M. However, we understand how this high-profile controversy may
prompt other groups to publish their results. As in all purported gene
associations, the burden of proof rests on repeated positive results in
independent data sets and the demonstration of an effect of the polymorphism
on biological activity.
The detailed comments to Dr. Tanzi's statements are below:
Dr. Tanzi writes: "Rudrasingham et al.... not only confirmed
our report of family-based association of A2M and AD in the NIMH families,
but they also observed a positive trend in the same direction in an independent
albeit smaller set of families (the NIA set). This observation serves as
an independent corroboration of our original report of family-based association
between A2M and AD."
The p value reported by Rudrasingham for their NIA set was 0.1. Most
would not regard p = 0.1 as statistically significant, and it certainly
does not qualify as an independent confirmation of a controversial result
which cannot even be replicated in the original dataset by a separate group
of investigators. Likewise, adding the results of the NIMH samples tested
by Blacker et al (and re-tested by Rudrasingham) to the new (but non-significant)
results from the NIA set tested by Rudrasingham generates a p-value which,
in truth, is much less significant than in the NIMH set alone! This also
does not constitute independent confirmation - in fact quite the converse!
Dr. Tanzi writes: "It may be worth noting that some of the authors
on the Rogaeva et al paper recently reported that by genetic linkage analysis
using DNA markers, maximum evidence for linkage to AD was found at marker
D12S358 which resides very close to A2M (JAMA, 1999). Thus, traditional
genetic linkage findings from numerous groups implicate the telomeric region
of the short arm of chromosome 12 directly near A2M (in contrast to the
original linkage findings reported by Duke in 1997, which placed the chromosome
12 AD-associated gene much closer to the centromeric region of the chromosome.)
There are several errors here both in the logic and in the facts. First,
although we agree that positive linkage results near A2M initially suggested
A2M as a candidate susceptibility gene, linkage also implicates all other
genes in that broad region of the chromosome. A2M has now been directly
tested and is not associated with AD in the same families that gave the
positive evidence for linkage. The original genetic linkage studies of Pericak-Vance
et al. (JAMA, 1997) and the follow-up linkage studies of Rogaeva et al (JAMA,
1998) and Scott et al (JAMA, 1999) in fact implicate a very broad region
of chromosome 12 (~67 cM). These papers clearly state that no statistically
significant preference for any given location can be made. As others have
pointed out (Craddock & Lendon, Lancet, 352:1720-1721, 1998), linkage
analyses in complex traits with multiple small pedigrees typically gives
weakly positive scores, which poorly localize the defect. It is inappropriate
to selectively seize upon one region because it has a marginally (but not
significantly) higher lod score under only one of several methods of linkage
analyses. It is also naive to believe that linkage analysis in complex
traits can implicate only one gene within a broad interval. Thus declaring
that A2M, falling within the general vicinity of that "peak",
must contain genetic variants associated with susceptibility to AD is obviously
incorrect.
Dr. Tanzi writes: "I think the most important point is that two
of the three groups who have explored this issue (ours and Rudrasingham
et al.) have observed significant family-based association between A2M and
AD (while Rogaeva et al report marginally significant findings for the NIMH
set). This fact, together with the report of positive case-control studies
from Brad Hyman along with the association of an A2M variant with increased
amyloid deposition, multiple reports of strong genetic linkage between AD
and markers in the A2M region of chromosome 12, and the demonstrated role
of A2M in A-beta clearance and degradation suggest that the role of A2M
in AD merits further study...."
The pretzel is getting rather twisted. Again, this statement is flawed
both logically (containing a mix of facts, wishful thinking, and hypothesis)
and factually. First, as we have pointed out, the non-NIMH data of Rudrasingham
et al and Rogaeva et al do not show a statistically significant association.
Second, the study of the Val1000Ile polymorphism by Hyman/Tanzi et al used
a case-control, not a family-based, design. Dr. Tanzi has consistently
stated elsewhere that an A2M-2 effect cannot be detected in sporadic AD
because of something special about the biology of the A2M/AD association.
Third, the Hyman/Tanzi et al. result was very marginal and certainly is
not an indication of the strong genetic effect originally proposed by Tanzi.
Fourth, no mention is made of the fact that the Val1000Ile polymorphism
is not associated with AD in the NIMH dataset, and the A2M-2 polymorphism
is not associated with sporadic AD in the Hyman/Tanzi case-control data
set. Also not mentioned is the fact that other studies of the A2M Val1000Ile
polymorphism have either found a disease association with the allele reported
to be "protective" in the Hyman/Tanzi data set (Myllykangas et
al, Ann. Neurol, 1999) or no association at all (e.g. Wavrant-DeVrieze et
al., Neurosci Lett, 1999). At the very best, these conflicting association
studies might cumulatively implicate linkage disequilibrium with some other
gene in this region. More plausibly, it's simply the same old noise that's
repeatedly seen in case-control studies in human populations with a variety
of different diseases (it's not peculiar to AD). Finally, A2M may well
have a biological role in the clearance of Abeta (but even here not all
agree). However, that A2M may or may not have a role in Abeta clearance
(or even in AD pathogenesis) neither requires nor supports the notion that
genetic variants in A2M must have any effect on susceptibility to AD.
Surprisingly, in this long list of comments, Dr. Tanzi consistently omits
discussion of any substantial evidence of a biological effect of the A2M-2
variant. In fact, as described in the Rogaeva paper, there is no evidence
that the A2M-2 variant has any affect on A2M mRNA or protein in brain, liver
or plasma. We will pre-empt here some of the speculative explanations that
we have heard at various meetings. The A2M-2 splice variant doesn't affect
"the 11 base upstream polypyrimidine tract" which potentially
modulates RNA splicing. The A2M-2 does not cause "production of a
small amount of truncated A2M monomers which are selectively retained in
the endoplasmic reticulum but which affect A2M multimers" (no truncated
monomers are detected in brain homogenates even in A2M-2 homozygotes).
However, even if it did, these "truncated monomers" would not
be available to affect extracellular activity, which is where Tanzi believes
A2M acts in the pathogenesis of AD. "Diet and diurnal variations"
have little effect on A2M plasma levels.
Dr. Tanzi writes: "Regarding the discrepant p-values reported
by our group and by Rogaeva et al for family based association of A2M and
AD, we need to analyze our respective genotypes for the NIMH set side by
side to resolve the difference. For example, it is possible that the family
material distributed to each site and the exact family members that were
genotyped differed or there were differences in the genotypes obtained."
The discrepant results are due to a Type I error in the original report.
Enlargement of the data set (from the original 102 families used in the
Tanzi analysis to the 143 used in our analysis) was done using families
drawn by the same investigators from the same populations using the same
diagnostic criteria and fails to confirm the association (p = 0.08 using
Dr. Tanzi's favored SDT method and p=0.05 using the S-TDT method; Dr. Tanzi
has apparently confused the two methods in his follow-up note of 5/19/99).
This indicates the initial result was not robust. The difference is not
due to "genotyping differences" - the two datasets were, as Dr.
Tanzi knows, "checked side by side" and the results reported to
the editor of Nature Genetics. It is not due to differences in the "mode
or sensitivity of the genetic analyses performed" - both the genotype
and the statistical analyses were performed using the identical methods
that were used by Tanzi. It is not due to "much smaller data sets"
- both independent datasets had sufficient statistical power to robustly
detect the APOE e4 association which Blacker et al suggested has an Odds
Ratio equivalent to or less than that of A2M-2.
In his follow-up of 5/19/99, Dr. Tanzi writes: "I would like to point
out that Rogaeva et al.'s two sets of independent families are both much
smaller than the NIMH set used to find the original association between
AD and A2M (Duke: n=65; Toronto: n=40; NIMH: n=400)."
Again, like several other comments made by Dr. Tanzi, this comparison is
in fact completely inappropriate. The sample sizes of the Duke and Toronto
sub-datasets are correct, and in toto they result in 105 families (which
give a non-significant p-value whether they are analyzed together as a single
data set or independently as two datasets). However, the stated n-values
for the Toronto and Duke subsets are the number of families in each sub-dataset
which met the inclusion criteria for SDT analysis described in Dr Tanzi's
paper. As such, they are the numbers of families which could ACTUALLY be
used in these analyses. In contrast, the "NIMH n = 400" statement
is not the sample size of the NIMH data set used for the SDT analysis by
Dr Tanzi. Instead, the "NIMH n = 400" is in fact the approximate
size of the ENTIRE NIMH sib pair collection, most of which do not fit the
structural requirements for the SDT analysis and are therefore unusable.
In fact, Dr Tanzi used only 102 NIMH families (compared to 143 NIMH families
in our follow up study). The correct statement in the comparison thus should
have been that, Dr Tanzi used only 102 NIMH families, and that the size
of the combined Duke/Toronto dataset was equivalent to that used by Tanzi
et al. and would clearly have the same power to detect an effect as the
original Tanzi dataset.
In his follow-up, Dr. Tanzi writes: "Also, as mentioned in our
reply in the May, 1999 issue of Nature Genetics, the method used by Rogaeva
et al to estimate "power" was basically incorrect since, unlike
case-control studies, family-based associations provides [sic] a "conditional"
odds ratio. The methods for carrying out these family-based association
analyses are for determining "power" in specific sets of families
for such analyses are new and unfamiliar to many geneticists."
Again Dr. Tanzi is in error on the facts. We only calculated power for
the case-control studies, and we did this using standard approaches. Since
we are well aware that calculating power for any family study is a difficult
proposition, we simply used as a guide our ability to detect the effect
of the APOE-4 allele. In the Blacker et al. paper, the authors state no
less than four times that the genetic effect for the A2M-2 allele is similar
to, if not greater than, for the APOE-4 allele. Our ability to robustly
detect the ApoE4 allele effect (p = 0.0009 even in the smallest sub-dataset)
gives practical confidence that the two independent sub-datasets either
alone or combined could easily detect associations of a similar.
Dr. Tanzi writes: "To address this possibility [of genotyping
differences], over six months ago, we sent our NIMH pedigree and genotype
data files to the corresponding author of the Rogaeva et al. study (Lindsay
Farrer). However, as of this writing, neither he nor any of his co-authors
has replied with any feedback or with any offer to share their raw data,
as well."
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Comment by: Rudy Tanzi (Disclosure)
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Thanks for summarizing the three new A2M genetics papers and our reply
in Nature Genetics (May 1999) in your "News" section this month. I
wanted to share my thoughts on the controversy regarding the candidacy
of A2M as a genetic risk factor for AD.
First, I want to clarify a point
made in your summary regarding the positive findings in the Rudrasingham
et al. paper. These investigators not only confirmed our report of
family-based association of A2M and AD in the NIMH families, but they
also observed a positive trend in the same direction in an independent
albeit smaller set of families (the NIA set). This observation serves as
an independent corroboration of our original report of family-based
association between A2M and AD. If our original results were spurious
(an interpretation favored by Rogaeva et al.), one would not have
expected, a priori, to detect a positive trend in this independent set
of AD families reported by Rudrasingham et al. While this smaller set of
families (with less power) yielded a P=value of .1, the combined p-value
for allelic association between AD...
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Thanks for summarizing the three new A2M genetics papers and our reply
in Nature Genetics (May 1999) in your "News" section this month. I
wanted to share my thoughts on the controversy regarding the candidacy
of A2M as a genetic risk factor for AD.
First, I want to clarify a point
made in your summary regarding the positive findings in the Rudrasingham
et al. paper. These investigators not only confirmed our report of
family-based association of A2M and AD in the NIMH families, but they
also observed a positive trend in the same direction in an independent
albeit smaller set of families (the NIA set). This observation serves as
an independent corroboration of our original report of family-based
association between A2M and AD. If our original results were spurious
(an interpretation favored by Rogaeva et al.), one would not have
expected, a priori, to detect a positive trend in this independent set
of AD families reported by Rudrasingham et al. While this smaller set of
families (with less power) yielded a P=value of .1, the combined p-value
for allelic association between AD and A2M in the NIMH and NIA families
was statistically quite significant (p=.003) in the Rudrasingham et al
study.
These findings thus serve as a confirmation of our original
observation of family-based association between A2M and AD. The other
study by Rogaeva et al study also demonstrated a significant association
of A2M with AD in the NIMH set albeit with a much lower p-value (.05)
than that observed in our updated analysis of the NIMH set (.0016;
reported in our reply, Nature Genetics, May 1999), and also lower than
that reported in the Rudrasingham et al. paper. In two much smaller sets
of families (N=45; N=60), Rogaeva et al did not detect a significant
association, however, this could be due to power. In addition, this
result along with the difference in p-value reported for the NIMH set
might be due to the mode and sensitivity of the genetic analyses
performed by our respective groups as well as differences in the
genotyping.
It may be worth noting that some of the authors on the Rogaeva et al
paper recently reported that by genetic linkage analysis using DNA
markers, maximum evidence for linkage to AD was found at marker D12S358
which resides very close to A2M (JAMA, 1999). To put this finding in
perspective, in the original chromosome 12 linkage paper from Duke
(Vance et al., JAMA, 1997), the A2M region of chromosome 12 was NOT tested; the
Duke chromosome 12 AD linkage was reported much closer to the
centromeric region of chromosome 12. Subsequently, this centromeric localization
reported by Duke could not be confirmed by our group (Blacker et al,
Nature Genetics 1998) or by two other groups who reported their findings
in JAMA (Rogaeva et al, Wu et al., 1998). Both of the latter two papers
did, however, report linkage peaks close to A2M. In the Feb., 1999 issue of
JAMA, the Duke group went on to extend their analysis of chromosome 12
telomerically toward the A2M region and reported that their most
positive linkage peak was also very close to A2M. Thus, traditional genetic
linkage findings from numerous groups implicate the telomeric region of the
short arm of chromosome 12 directly near A2M (in contrast to the original
linkage findings reported by Duke in 1997 which placed the chromosome 12
AD-associated gene much closer to the centromeric region of the
chromosome.)
Regarding the discrepant p-values reported by our group and by Rogaeva
et al for family based association of A2M and AD, we need to analyze our
respective genotypes for the NIMH set side by side to resolve the
difference. For example, it is possible that the family material
distributed to each site and the exact family members that were
genotyped differed or there were differences in the genotypes obtained. To address
this possiblity, over six monthes ago, we sent our NIMH pedigree and
genotype data files to the corresponding author of the Rogaeva et al.
study (Lindsay Farrer). However, as of this writing, niether he nor any
of his co-authors has replied with any feedback or with any offer to share
their raw data, as well.
Nevertheless, I think the most important point
is that two of the three groups who have explored this issue (ours and
Rudrasingham et al.)have observed significant family-based association
between A2M and AD (while Rogaeva et al report marginally significant
findings for the NIMH set). This fact, together with the report of
positive case-control studies from Brad Hyman along with the association
of an A2M variant with increased amyloid deposition, multiple reports of
strong genetic linkage between AD and markers in the A2M region of
chromosome 12, and the demonstrated role of A2M in A-beta clearance and
degradation suggest that the role of A2M in AD merits further study.
Meanwhile, it is has been stated that Haines, Pericak-Vance, Hyslop,
Farrer and colleagues will continue to search for another chromosome 12
AD gene. From a historical perspective, it is interesting to note that we
and some of the individuals looking at chromosome 12 and A2M chased an AD
gene other than APP on chromosome 21 gene for several years at the end of the
eighties and into the nineties until Goate et al discovered the APP
London mutation. Almost instantly, thereafter, the search for the "other"
chromosome 21 gene was abandoned. Genetic analyses from group to group
can certainly vary for many different reasons stemming from family and
patient material to the types of genetic analyses that are employed. In the end,
we all follow our best leads and wherever our data and analyses take us.
Case-control studies in all three Nature Genetic studies were negative.
Thus, it is impreative to address the issue of why A2M is associated
with AD using family-based association but not population-based analyses. The
observation of family-based association of A2M and AD in the absence of
any consistently positive population-based (case-control) associations
suggests at least one possible explanation. A2M might be operating as a
genetic "modifier" for AD, one with significant strength so as to be
detected by family-based association but which is missed by most
case-control analyses. Basically, we can detect the association of A2M
and AD within families where affected and unaffected members share common
genetic and to some extent, environmental risk factors. However, in most
case-control studies, the association is missed. This may be because the
AD cases do not share common genetic backgrounds (opposite to the
situation within families). In other words, in the family-based
assoication analyses, we may be garnering evidence for a genetic
scenario in which certain members of families are getting AD due to various
genetic and/or environmental factors, while the A2M variants that have been
associated with AD are linked to the rate of pathogenesis (e.g.
involving the rate of deposition of A-beta). If A2M were operating as a modifier,
its genetic impact on AD would be more easily detected when the affected
and unaffected individuals share a common biological background (i.e.
common genetic, and to a lesser extent, environmental factors)
predisposing to AD. Indeed, A2M has been shown by multiple groups to
affect the clearance and degradation of A-beta.
Thus, one possibility is that A2M's role as a genetic modifier for AD is related to the
differential ability of common A2M variants to curb the accumulation of
beta-amyloid in the brain. Along these lines, my laboratory in
collaboration with the company Genoplex in Boulder, CO (for which I am
one of three scientific founders) are now focusing on investigating the
biological basis for the role of A2M in the clearance and degradation of
A-beta for the purposes of drug discovery.
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In Peter Hyslop's reply to the Alzheimer Forum News article on "A2M Revisited, he states: "The Rogaeva et al paper used the SAME family based association statistical methods as Blacker et al (ie the SDT and s-TDT methods). They found NO association in two INDEPENDENT familial AD
datasets, both of which showed prior evidence for linkage with a gene on chromosome 12, and both of which had sufficient power to robustly detect the APOE e4 association using these methods (ie it's not a power problem)."
In reply, I would like to point out that Rogaeva et al's
two sets of indendendent families are both much smaller than the
NIMH set used to find the original association between AD and A2M
(Duke: n=65; Toronto: n=40; NIMH: n=400). Moreover, the ability to
detect family-based association with APOE4 certainly does
not guarantee that one then has the "power" to observe all other
AD-associated genes in these families (e.g. A2M-2) especially given
variable prevalence rates and the heterogeneous biological impact of
different genetic risk...
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Response from Rudy Tanzi
In Peter Hyslop's reply to the Alzheimer Forum News article on "A2M Revisited, he states: "The Rogaeva et al paper used the SAME family based association statistical methods as Blacker et al (ie the SDT and s-TDT methods). They found NO association in two INDEPENDENT familial AD
datasets, both of which showed prior evidence for linkage with a gene on chromosome 12, and both of which had sufficient power to robustly detect the APOE e4 association using these methods (ie it's not a power problem)."
In reply, I would like to point out that Rogaeva et al's
two sets of indendendent families are both much smaller than the
NIMH set used to find the original association between AD and A2M
(Duke: n=65; Toronto: n=40; NIMH: n=400). Moreover, the ability to
detect family-based association with APOE4 certainly does
not guarantee that one then has the "power" to observe all other
AD-associated genes in these families (e.g. A2M-2) especially given
variable prevalence rates and the heterogeneous biological impact of
different genetic risk factors. If A2M-2 is, as I believe, operating
as
a genetic modifier, Rogaeva et al could have missed it by testing A2M
in the relatively small Duke and Toronto family sets. Also, as
mentioned
in our reply in the May, 1999 issue of Nature Genetics, the method
used
by Rogaeva et al to estimate "power" was basically incorrect since,
unlike case-control studies, family based associations provides a
"conditional" odds ratio. The methods for carrying out these
family-based association analyses and for determining "power" in
specific sets of families for such analyses are new and unfamiliar to
many geneticists. We were very fortunate that in performing these
family-based association analyses of A2M and AD, we had the expert
guidance of Dr. Nan Laird, who developed and published the SDT
program.
Second, given that Rogaeva et al found a p-value of .05 in the NIMH set of families while we get p=.0016 in our extended analyses (see table in our reply; Nature Genetics, May 1999), it is possible that our two teams are not running these analyses (SDT and S-TDT) in exactly the same way as Dr. Hyslop claims in his reply. We also cannot be certain that both teams are genotyping and analyzing the same NIMH samples and/or obtaining the same genotypes for each sibship in this dataset.
We sent Dr. Lindsay Farrer (the corresponding author of the Rogaeva et al paper) our A2M data files several months ago. He could thus confirm our original findings on A2M and AD by running the SDT and S-TDT on our data and then checking whether he finds similar p-values to those we published in our 1998 A2M paper in Nature Genetics. This would also help to determine whether our respective teams are running the family-based association analyses, and particularly the SDT, in the same manner at each site. I also think it would be extremely helpful, if the authors of each of the four A2M/AD studies published in Nature Genetics were to agree, to exchange and cross-analyze each other's published A2M data and then compare the results. Perhaps, by working together in a collegial and constructive manner, we will be able to resolve some of the differences in our respective genetic analyses
of A2M and AD.
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Comment by: Peter St. George-Hyslop
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Submitted 6 May 1999
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The final sentences of the Alzheimer Research Forum News Summary leaves
the impression that the cause of the disparity is due to differences in
the statistical methods used. In fact, this is not at all correct. The
Rogaeva et al paper used the SAME family based association statistical
methods as Blacker et al (ie the SDT and s-TDT methods). They found NO
association in two INDEPENDENT familial AD datasets, both of which
showed prior evidence for linkage with a gene on chromosome 12, and both
of which had sufficient power to robustly detect the APOE e4 association
using these methods (ie it's not a power problem). They also found that
the A2M-2 association degraded to borderline/non-significance when it
was re-tested using the same methods in an enlarged set of families from
the same NIMH dataset originally reported in the Blacker paper.
The Alzheimer Research Forum News Summary omits mention of the
absence of a biological effect of the A2M-2 deletion variant. This is a
rather important element to bring to the attention of non-geneticists
(indeed the editorial from Nature...
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The final sentences of the Alzheimer Research Forum News Summary leaves
the impression that the cause of the disparity is due to differences in
the statistical methods used. In fact, this is not at all correct. The
Rogaeva et al paper used the SAME family based association statistical
methods as Blacker et al (ie the SDT and s-TDT methods). They found NO
association in two INDEPENDENT familial AD datasets, both of which
showed prior evidence for linkage with a gene on chromosome 12, and both
of which had sufficient power to robustly detect the APOE e4 association
using these methods (ie it's not a power problem). They also found that
the A2M-2 association degraded to borderline/non-significance when it
was re-tested using the same methods in an enlarged set of families from
the same NIMH dataset originally reported in the Blacker paper.
The Alzheimer Research Forum News Summary omits mention of the
absence of a biological effect of the A2M-2 deletion variant. This is a
rather important element to bring to the attention of non-geneticists
(indeed the editorial from Nature Genetics says that they will now
require future association studies to show a biological effect and
replication in an independent dataset). The Rogaeva et al paper shows
that the A2M-2 variant has no effect on A2M mRNA splicing in brain or
liver; has no effect on monomeric A2M protein size in brain or serum;
and has no effect on A2M protein levels in serum of homozygous or
heterozygous carriers of the A2M-2 deletion variant compared to
homozygous carriers of the insertion variant.
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